Anonymous #1 18w

Whether that’s a god awful amount of cologne or smelling so stinky it’s offensive

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Anonymous #1 18w

While we can have empathy we can also have mindfulness 🙏

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Anonymous #1 18w

if people have such debilitating symptoms that they would commit suicide, it’s not a far leap to guess some have such debilitating symptoms that they wouldn’t wear deodorant despite wanting to. if you want people to wear deodorant, help make therapy more accessible (or shut up 👍)

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Anonymous OP 18w

I’m not just talking about deodorant I’m just talking about not smelling awful. Do whatever works for you but like just because your mental situation explains something doesn’t mean it gives you an excuse to smell offensive

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Anonymous OP 18w

if it was a lack of access that’s one thing. Like if you’re destitute or your shower is broken and you have no means to fix it or find another way. If it’s just because of mental stuff, I think while we can lead with empathy, we do also have to advocate for respect and sanitary practices

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Anonymous #1 18w

And of course therapy is a must, especially at that point

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Anonymous #1 18w

people DIE “just because of mental stuff.” you clearly don’t take this seriously. get off my post.

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Anonymous #1 18w

Not everyone can access therapy or have the resources for that

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Saying “if you see my comment don’t try and argue with me” is really dumb. People are going to reply to your comment if you comment it in the first place. It’s like saying “don’t argue with me because I know I’m wrong” yes hygiene is important, but you are completely missing the point. Also not everyone has access or can ask for help

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Ask Jolina where she got her medical degree.

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Anonymous OP 18w

Sorry idk how to comment properly >_>

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Anonymous #4 18w

you’re good lol

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Also you said “if you see this comment don’t try to argue with me” that really doesn’t sound like making a point, it sounds like you don’t want people to argue with you because many disagree with the point you are making and the wording.

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I think you need to take a break from YikYak for a bit, you have been writing a bunch of absurd comments about talking to a wall and talking to yourself. A lot of comments are in caps as well. Are you okay?

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That’s funny you are telling me to calm down, I’m in my bed enjoying a drink. You are the one writing in all caps and writing comments saying how you are talking to yourself. I suggest you take a break. I’m not diagnosing you with anything I’m just suggesting you take a little break.

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No it doesn’t? The definition of calm down is “to stop being angry, upset, or excited” what are you on about?

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Anonymous #5 18w

This!

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Anonymous #5 18w

This! For me, it’s my meds. I want to take them regularly so damn badly and I feel guilty when I miss it which makes me overthink. Where other people would just start back up the next night, I end up getting so in my head about it that I end up missing my meds for maybe a week

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Anonymous #6 18w

This has happened so many times to me 😭 I’m exactly the same way. I feel guilty and in my head then miss a week

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Anonymous #7 18w

you probs harass bigger people to “help them get fit,” I don’t want to hear it from you

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Anonymous OP 18w

Girl no I don’t, applying deodorant takes like 2 fucking seconds and btw people don’t wanna smell your body odor. I don’t care about “depression” WEAR DEODORANT IF YOU GO OUT IN PUBLIC

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Anonymous #7 18w

putting depression in quotes as if you don’t believe in it 💀 get out of the ND community you apathetic freak

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Anonymous #1 18w

Wow this comment section just proves how ignorant and unempathetic people are to how deeply deptession effects your ability to function. There’s nothing wrong with letting someone know that they don’t smell good for whatever reason, but especially body odor. But…

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Anonymous #9 18w

There is something deeply flawed in acknowledging that you understand someone has depression while simultaneously saying their depression has nothing to do with their hygiene. For many people, depression is a significant factor in their inability to maintain personal hygiene. I would much rather you smell awful for a while if it means you have enough mental energy to stay alive… if it means you have enough spoons to not kill yourself. That's what OP is saying…. !!!

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Anonymous #9 18w

What the OP is saying is that the bad smell is unlikely to kill you, your comment to that person about their odor or suggesting they need to improve despite their depression could be the tipping point that leads them to take drastic actions, like ending their life. This is a serious issue and it HAPPENS in real life. Here is an example of a depressed person's thought process...

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Anonymous #9 18w

“Depression shouldn't make you not wear deodorant.” -Jolina “Right. They're right. I can't even do this one basic thing. I am so useless. This is the proof. I'm not just sick, I'm a failure. Everyone must notice. Everyone must be disgusted. It would be better for everyone if I just... stopped being here.” -Depressed Human

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Anonymous #10 18w

that’s actually so unfortunate ngl

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Anonymous #11 18w

Been there*

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Anonymous #11 18w

Babe the point is when I literally am contemplating continuing life, I’m not thinking about deodorant. If you’ve been there, then you would get it. When I am unable to get out of bed or eat or do anything because I want to die, my hygiene is not on the top of my mind.

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Anonymous #7 18w

There are medical conditions that result in body odor no matter a persons hygiene level. You don’t know what someone is going through and it doesn’t help to open that smelly mouth of urs to make these comment

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Anonymous #1 18w

i think killing yourself is also a lil disrespectful but hey maybe we got different standards

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That’s great you could keep ur hygiene up, but not everyone is you. Mental illness is not the same for each person. Don’t say dumb shit and people won’t argue with you

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dude im agreeing with you. im saying that someone killing themselves is worse than someone smelling bad.

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Anonymous #12 18w

Girl how would you even know if I’ve been there or not. I have. I’ve been so depressed that I didn’t shower or eat for weeks but I didn’t subject other people to my stink bc I stayed home. Also if you can’t get out of bed, your reply to my comment is irrelevant bc again it was about making other people have to deal with your situation too. It’s disrespectful, that’s all I’m saying. I didn’t say you’re lazy or a bad person if you’re going through that.

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Anonymous #11 18w

obviously it’s a bad thing to smell bad in public, but the ENTIRE point of my post was that we KNOW it’s a bad thing. shaming us for it doesn’t help, it drives us deeper into that depression.

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Anonymous OP 18w

if you can’t bring yourself to shower or even put on deodorant and don’t know why your brain is doing that to you, others shaming you for it makes you feel broken and irreparable. it’s like telling a bigger person they need to lose weight. it doesn’t fucking help.

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Anonymous OP 18w

I do agree with that, people do need to give others compassion and grace. I’m not supporting people being like “EW YOU STINK” and just bullying people for being depressed. I’m just suggesting that people be mindful, that’s all🫶

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Anonymous #11 18w

ok yeah we agree then

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Anonymous #11 18w

#11 is trying to backpedal into “I’m just suggesting mindfulness”, but their first comment wasn’t about mindfulness at all. It was a blunt directive If you wanted to ‘suggest mindfulness,’ you wouldn’t have said…I'll just quote your first comment verbatim. “Girl if other people can SMELL YOU it's a problem. I've *been there, I get it. But don't subject others to your stink. Stay home if you're not gonna at LEAST wear deodorant or perfume”

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Anonymous #11 18w

#11 immediately shift the focus from what outsiders should change in their perspective to what depressed people should change in their behavior The OP wasn’t giving hygiene tips to depressed people. The post was calling out the Jolinas who shame people for symptoms of depression. Turning it into ‘what depressed people need to do’ shifts the burden back on the person who’s already suffering, instead of addressing the real issue: ✨how we respond to them✨

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Anonymous #9 18w

Girl you’re crashing out for no reason and reopening an argument that is over

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You’re entitled to your opinion, I’m not pressed about it

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Anonymous #11 18w

Just pointing out #11’s deflection Opinion vs. fact… “stay home if you stink” is an opinion framed as a directive (a rule #11 feels people should follow). My response was more fact-based: depression impairs function, shame makes it worse. That’s not ‘my opinion’ it’s backed up by mental health research I also pointed out that the OP wasn’t giving hygiene advice but calling out stigma

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Anonymous #9 18w

Girl i literally said “people do need to give others grace” and that we shouldn’t bully people for things like that. I’m literally agreeing with you, why are you trying to argue? Are you really that bored that you’d try to argue over literally nothing. I’m aware OP wasn’t giving hygiene advice, I was saying to be mindful lmao

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