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Does anyone find it so immensely frustrating how online spaces are entirely void of nuance? For a less serious example, pit bulls. I think both, “Genetics have no impact on behavior” and “Pitbulls are uncontrollable beasts” are both false??
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Anonymous 4w

Like yes I think there IS a problem of pit bull type dogs being poorly bred, trained, and managed. But I’ve seen outright vitriolic hatred towards them and calls to violence which. Also is not okay.

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Anonymous 4w

If it weren’t for the idea that all pit bulls are violent beasts I might’ve grown up alongside one cause when my mom was pregnant a pit bull puppy showed up on our porch and followed her around, even trying to jump into the car when she got in. When she was telling me this story she admitted that if she had known pit bulls could be gentle sweet dogs my family probably would have adopted him instead of bringing him to the shelter and leaving

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Anonymous 4w

Also like, I can simultaneously understand that pitbulls are treated unfairly due to the reputation around them but I can still understand residential ordinances against pitbulls just because any friendly dog can still be provoked and they still have a much more impactful bite force than say, a shih tzu. But I think that should expand to other breeds like German shepherds it shouldn’t just be pitbulls

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Anonymous 4w

Dogs/Dog breeds are one of my special interests and I’ve had this argument sooo often. All dogs that (at least in modern times) have been bred as fight dogs are more likely as a whole to be violent. This is due to poor breeding/specifically breeding for violence, inbreeding that occurs in puppy mills that these dogs are often pumped out of causing some wires in their brain to be crossed, abuse due to how they’re viewed by the world, as well as ptsd from being used as fight dogs. Nature v Nuture

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

ALSO nuance in general and then people who like weaponize their own misunderstanding of something

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

Pitbulls (as well as some other “fight” dog breeds I believe) were originally bred as nanny dogs, something strong enough to protect the children but also loyal enough to never use that strength to hurt them. However decades and decades of breeding them for fight dogs has changed them. This is why the American Bully was bred to be a “replacement” for Pit bulls, they wanted all the strength and loyalty that pits originally were bred for, however

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

They were recognized for their similarities and almost immediately taken in as fight dogs. Bully and pit genes are so intermingled now that it’s hard to find pure bred bullies that arent from puppy mills or fight dog lineages, and they’re already developing the same tendencies towards aggression as Pitbulls, Rottweilers, Dobermans, and other “fight” breeds tend to be known for. I wholly believe that all of these dog breeds can be amazing family dogs, however it takes research and training and

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

A lot of time and socializing to make them as safe as they can be. We know that they can be “fixed” because GSDs and BMDs used to also be used as fight dogs and their images have completely changed to instead be shown as the prime example of working dogs, this was primarily due to breeding populations being more monitored and them being using as K9 units and SED companions (and other service dog work)

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

We never learned how he got there but I hope he got a good home since the shelter is part of a network of shelters

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