Anonymous #3 7w

totally, and a disability isn’t By Definition completely devoid of functional or positive traits, so defining “disorder” by a supposed absence of beneficial qualities totally disregards a basic tenet of disability justice rhetoric / theory

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Anonymous #6 6w

lol fr

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Anonymous haganshows 5w

So like I used Google and I can’t control Google anymore what do you want me to do? I included peer studies before

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Anonymous #2 5w

But I literally used peer reviewed study before this😭

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Anonymous #2 5w

Because the current system is meeting everyone’s needs so well?

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Anonymous #3 5w

Please tell me how the labeled disorder doesn’t negatively impact people. People literally judge you?

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Anonymous OP 5w

Did you know like it’s significantly harder to get a loan if you’re autistic to get certain jobs if you’re autistic also the whole term definition came from the industrial era so if you guys wanna keep pushing with the corporate elites are pushing you’re more than welcome to do that, but actual scientist are starting to question this disorder because it’s not a fucking disorder oh my God

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Anonymous #4 5w

A disability in modern society, but just because it’s deficient in modern society does not mean overall it is a disability nobody ever gives people with level three autism to grow! You guys all infantilize them! Have you done any research on what level three autism did in Hunter gather societies because they did have jobs BTW, so please please keep telling me this disorder label

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Anonymous #6 5w

I used a peer reviewed study before and then I googled it and then I pressed more information and then Google now does AI why are you getting mad at me for that? You should be getting mad at Google for changing his system

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Anonymous OP 5w

Then screenshot the study? Google has ai yes, but you chose to use it and rely on its sources. The ai (Gemini in particular) is literally programmed to prioritize, storytelling and narrative spinning over facts, and almost every time I talk to you, it has some sort of hallucination. You were using AI the proof for your point, which was your choice not Google’s. So no, you’re still an idiot.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Clinically, it’s a disability. Signed, someone who has taken classes in this.

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Anonymous OP 5w

So what is it then?? All sparkles and rainbows???

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Anonymous #4 5w

Clinically how because that clinical diagnosis came from the industrial era after they wanted worker bees

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Anonymous OP 5w

Screenshot it :)

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Anonymous OP 5w

You wanna make that make sense??? It’s a disability and you can’t argue it.

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Anonymous #4 5w

You’re not going to win this argument, which is why HUNDREDS of scientist have been starting to question this label as a disability. Autism level three had jobs in societies before modern society. Do you realize like modern Society is .0000000000000001 percent of human development.

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Anonymous #6 5w

It is literally what I was replying to in this post. Oh my God do you have eyes or do you just have a narrative that you’re trying to push? I’m sensing it’s the ladder.

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Anonymous #6 5w

Literally, sweetheart, go to this post click what I was reacting to and read it

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Anonymous OP 5w

Words have meanings for a reason. My best friend and I are both autistic, he’s extremely smart but has no emotional regulation and wouldn’t live without his parents. Saying that “they’re only disabled in modern society” still means they’re disabled. Also, your whole point about agrarian/hunter-gatherer doesn’t help you.

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Anonymous #4 5w

How in what environment?

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Anonymous #4 5w

Cause last time I checked, you guys only test autistic people in modern society in modern standards

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Anonymous #4 5w

No, I never said that just because something isn’t a disorder doesn’t mean that there isn’t any cons to it does your car running out of gas and stop and go traffic faster than on the highway mean that it’s a disordered car.

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Anonymous OP 5w

You were using the AI as a back up to the point you were making. Regardless of if you had a study or not (which you haven’t proven or posted so I have no reason to believe that) you used AI as your proof and not the study, it makes you look like a fucking clown. Also accusing me of spinning a narrative while you’re literally denying objective facts and using the brain rot machine (which is again programmed to spin narratives not objective truth) as your proof is laughable.

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Anonymous #4 5w

That doesn’t make any sense at all just look at Neurotypical you guys claim that they’re the typical but yet they fall into peer pressure bandwagoning all the time they have cons too nothing in life is sunshine in rainbows.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Not screenshot it? I didn’t realize whenever you made a Google search Google took over your body forced you to screenshot and not use the data that is still there.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Because in the past they were put in ASYLUMS. Please quote the HUNDREDS of scientists who say it’s not a disability. And no, don’t use AI

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Anonymous #4 5w

Sweetheart, it is literally in the post that you’re reacting to right now. Holy cow so this is what I told the other person you guys are more concerned about your narrative that you’re trying to push then actually taking two seconds to read or look at what you’re even reacting to.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Latter**

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Anonymous #6 5w

RIGHT?? Anyone using ai for PROOF in the big 2026??? Brain rot

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Anonymous OP 5w

There’s NO proof and it’s one author. You’ve read online, I’ve taken MULTIPLE courses.

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Anonymous #6 5w

Let me put this very nicely to you. Society has only been around .000000000000000001 percent of human development. in fact, we spent 70 million years as apes in the forest before we even went into the Savana and then started to develop into Homo sapiens meaning that there is a blueprint before modern society even existed of course a cognitive style that has spent 70 million years and non-monitored society is going to struggle with emotionally regulating themselves in modern society.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Comparing autistic people to cars??? Are you insane??? Cryingggg

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Anonymous OP 5w

Modern

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Anonymous #6 5w

“They’re only disabled in modern society” is such bullshit.

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Anonymous OP 5w

you gotta be willfully naive if you think that avoiding categorizations like “disorder” would in any way protect you from experiencing ableism but I guess I’m not surprised, cause when you refuse the classification of autism as a disability, you necessarily lose sight of the fact that the mistreatment and stigma you face as an autistic person are by-definition ableism

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Anonymous #5 5w

“Oh lemme not call myself disabled so everyone will treat me normally and I’ll be fine” AS IF THATS HOW IT WORKS.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Basically, I’m trying to say what if we stop putting it on the individual and labeling people as a disorder LETS criticize modern society THATS THE ISSUE!

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Anonymous OP 5w

Also having disabilities doesn’t mean that people are useless. You say here that people in hunter gatherer societies had jobs. Okay? And?? That proves NOTHINGGGG

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Anonymous OP 5w

Spare me the lecture of something you don’t know anything about. Do you think a lack of emotional regulation is something that wouldn’t be even more debilitating during Hunter gatherer times? Situations like that require a high amount of mechanical solidarity, if someone can’t emotionally connect or properly communicate with their hunter buddies, they’re gonna get stomped out by a mammoth. Sincerely, a sociology major who knows more about this than you.

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Anonymous #6 5w

And then I provided more peer reviewed so this is how I know your argument is running out of fuel because you’re literally having to use the fact that I used AI one time not even on purposely because I googled something impressed extra like I wanted to read more about it, sweetheart I can’t control how Google operates now for so many years. It didn’t give me an AI answer

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Anonymous #6 5w

I’d LOOOOVE to hear OP’s qualifications. What classes they’ve taken, their major…

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Anonymous #4 5w

But then I showed multiple multiple peer review studies Lord help me is this what you guys are going to ride or die your argument on

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Anonymous OP 5w

No, you’ve been getting destroyed pretty thoroughly nor have you actually provided any information.

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Anonymous OP 5w

You absolutely can scroll TWO INCHES DOWN and not use AI. I do it every day.

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Anonymous OP 5w

OP, what’s your major??? What are your qualifications to speak on this?

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Anonymous #4 5w

Oh my God this is how I know you guys have no merit with your argument because you guys are sitting there using the fact that I googled and pressed read more information in the AI answer popped up. I literally cannot control the Google does that now.

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Anonymous #4 5w

Why are you comparing modern scientist to scientist from the 1800s so like those are different people who practiced different things who grew up in a different time.

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Anonymous #4 5w

You’re not going to win this argument by the way

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Anonymous OP 5w

You…can…scroll

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Anonymous #4 5w

Again, this is how I know you guys have no merit to any of your guys’s arguments because your nitpicking

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Anonymous #4 5w

So that’s literally not what anyone is saying

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Anonymous OP 5w

And you’re making the assumption that autistic people can’t be peer pressured? If anything the desired to fit in after feeling like an outcast can make that worse.

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Anonymous #5 5w

Or we could just advocate for a better society, sweetheart you don’t gotta label everything as a disorder to force society to get its crap together and treat people better

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Anonymous OP 5w

when you refuse to understand autism as a disability, you lose the capacity to understand that your oppression is something you have in common with all kinds of other disabled people. you choose to throw away the possibility of participating in deliberate community with disabled people just because you’re so offended by the idea of being seen as one of us it’s giving “ew, I’m not one of those freaks”. benefits absolutely no one

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Anonymous #4 5w

What about the hundreds of scientist that have PhD‘s that are doing that questioning the disorder, sweetheart

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Anonymous #4 5w

OK, so if I take a cheetah and I put it into water and I only ever test it in water what is it gonna look like deficient compared to a shark at least right but then you put the cheat on land and you watch it run environment, matters a lot, sweetheart

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Anonymous OP 5w

damn, kinda sounds like autistic people experience institutionalized ableism, i.e. the oppression faced by people with disabilities!

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Anonymous #4 5w

I’m not going to engage with you guys because you guys have a narrative and you’re just trying to argue your narrative

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Anonymous OP 5w

That’s the goal. I’m not arguing that our definition of disability doesn’t need changing, but overall autistic people need a lot of extra support and struggle to communicate with their peers. The fact that they need more help than someone who is Neurotypical makes them disabled. That doesn’t make them lesser and that doesn’t mean they couldn’t absolutely excel in certain areas that Neurotypical couldn’t, but a good portion of autistic people are just disabled and gain no benefit from it.

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Anonymous #6 5w

How am I being destroyed? Are you impacting the scientist that have access to brain studies and scans and research labs that are actively doing research about this because last time I checked a bunch of people in the Yik Yak comments don’t determine anything.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Please, what are your qualifications??

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Anonymous OP 5w

So you don’t HAVE ANY. I see. And where are these HUNDREDS???

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Anonymous OP 5w

So they weren’t disabled in the past societies??? What exactly do you mean???

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Anonymous #6 5w

What is this argument? What is this argument? Oh my God you asked stupid freaking sunshine in rainbows. I said no everything in life has a and what are you bringing up the fact that autistic people can fall to peer pressure literally how does that relate to anything you asked if there are cons and I said that everything has cons so I brought up an example of what we are calling the typical brain

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Anonymous #6 5w

I agree with a lot of this, but again, disability is not defined by a total absence of beneficial traits. part of the whole issue with OP’s framework here is that they’ve bought into the misconception that a disability can only ever be experienced as a curse, with zero positive components. disability is much more complex than that. I love being autistic, and that doesn’t make it any less of a disability

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Anonymous #5 5w

Yes, but continuing to call it a disability is doing what? the suicide rate is still five times higher than a Neurotypical person…. Maybe if you guys just stop calling it it is disorder and actually just started to spend that energy and advocating for a better society then maybe we would have an accommodating society that it didn’t need to worry if people had a disability or not to get accommodations, they would just simply accommodate.

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Anonymous OP 5w

You were literally the one to say that Neurotypical’s fault peer pressure all the time. What the hell is your point?

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Anonymous OP 5w

There’s NO REASON to not call it a disability. You’re arguing to argue.

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Anonymous #6 5w

No, no no no no no no no please get this out of your head. Why do you guys think that if you deviate from the typical that you have a disorder oh my God please get this institutionalized era mindset out of your head. This is what the fucking elite corporate wanted people to think. Please do research on where this diagnosis even came from. It came from the morning to be worker bees.

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Anonymous #4 5w

Please though. Qualifications??? I’m assuming you’re a younger, newly diagnosed person who doesn’t like the label and that’s why you’re like this

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Anonymous OP 5w

“I’m not liking the fact that I’m not making my point clear enough so I’m going to stop arguing and act like everyone else is the problem”

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Anonymous #5 5w

How is it a disability? You guys are only testing it in modern society only testing it in modern society oh my God you guys can get accommodations without it being labeled as a disability. You just have to advocate for a better fucking society. It’s not that hard of a concept. I did bring up so many positive and every single person shut them down because you guys are so narrowminded about this disorder framework.

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Anonymous #6 5w

What does that even mean? What are you even talking about? Scientist people with PHD‘s are questioning if this disorder framework is incorrect literally I don’t even have to exist. They’re still questioning it literally anything you say in this comment section is so irrelevant. It’s not even funny all I’m trying to show you guys is that there’s a paradigm shift coming so either buckle up or continue to think that it’s all a disorder because we’re gonna change society for the better

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Anonymous OP 5w

No more making people think that they have to be labeled as a disorder to get accommodation no more of that what we’re going to do is we’re going to push for a better society

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Anonymous #4 5w

They literally had job jobs like fire watchers. They would help with gathering. It’s even reported that level three autism or some of the first individuals to help with tool making, but nobody is taking any time to research this. Everyone just wants to be so content with the disorder framework, but why you can get accommodations if we just advocate for a better society

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Anonymous #4 5w

You know you also have access to Google and peer reviewed studies by the way

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Anonymous #4 5w

You’re literally not going to win this argument actual scientist with PhD are starting to question the disorder framework because newsflash in order to get accommodations. You don’t have to be labeled as a disorder if we just simply advocate for a better society.

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Anonymous OP 5w

So are you saying that they don’t have jobs now and they’re just homebound and do nothing and sit on their asses all day? Because I don’t think that’s true.

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Anonymous #6 5w

No, let me break this down so that even a kindergarten could understand they said if it’s not a disability what is it sunshine and rainbows? I said no nothing in life works that way even Neurotypical people have their own cons and I brought up peer pressure because on a macro level their level of peer pressure actually gets people killed not just one people many people. It is not the same as autistic peer pressure.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Using sweetheart over and over and over and over and over again won’t make me feel like I’m less than you, which is what you’re clearly trying to do. I asked you a question and you’re not answering. To me, it seems like you’re very young, naïve, and trying to navigate your own diagnosis. I apologize if you feel like you’re not disabled, if you dislike the label, or are upset with your diagnosis. However, it’s a disability. Signed, a disability scholar.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Autistic people absolutely face the same peer pressure as Neurotypical people

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Anonymous #4 5w

No, I’m someone who has a brain and can look at what scientist who have PhD’s are doing and question these frameworks alongside these super talented and smart scientist

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Anonymous OP 5w

So that’s not your major, not your field of study, I see. Maybe listen to the people who are telling you otherwise.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I *am* advocating for a better society, I’m committed to my disability justice politics. I’ve been chronically ill & physically crippled since early childhood and it is a Glaring red flag that you’re so upset by the idea of sharing a categorical label with people like me but anyway, since you’re so eager to be excluded from disabled community, I’m gonna respect that by blocking you 👍

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Anonymous OP 5w

Lmao, you do realize Stephen Hawking, one of the smartest men to ever live, was a cripple, right? He was considered disabled, but no one thought less of him or thought he was less capable. You’re conflating the label disability with inability to do things or are lesser, which isn’t true.

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Anonymous #4 5w

But there is a reason because what is the current framework doing absolutely nothing. The autistic suicide rate is five times higher than a Neurotypical person so please please tell me what we are currently doing is helping because it’s not also you say that that’s not my major not my field to study how do you know I am.😭 brother this is how I can tell your argument is running dry because now you’re trying to get up me as an individual

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Anonymous #4 5w

I’m not gonna listen to the people in the geeky comments. I’m going to listen to the scientist who have PhD’s who are questioning this framework because from where I stand, the current framework is doing nothing but making people feel horrible about themselves and increasing the suicide rate for autistic people by five times.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Yikyik comments

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Anonymous #6 5w

Now you’re just making up stuff because you’re not even following on my point anymore

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Anonymous OP 5w

What part am I making up? I didn’t realize Stephen Hawking didn’t exist.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Refusing to listen to people who are students is also just gross. I absolutely am trying to understand you as an individual, because if you are in a school that is teaching you this, I would look at their program and try and understand. However, if this is just stuff that you’re finding on the Internet, no, I’m not gonna listen to you.

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Anonymous #4 5w

Did I say that no I fucking didn’t stop putting words in my fucking mouth, bro you were just in cognitive dissonance

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Anonymous OP 5w

My argument isn’t running dry. If you would like me to go back in my textbook and tell you about the history of disability rights, leaders of the disability movement, the history of the label, I can absolutely do that for you. But you are determined to not listen to anybody, so I don’t think I’m gonna waste my time.

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Anonymous OP 5w

Well, you’re saying that they’re only disabled in modern society, so it kind of makes sense… saying that they had jobs back then implies that they don’t know

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Anonymous #4 5w

Now*

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Anonymous OP 5w

The billionaire elite want you to be screeching about this shit and obsessing over whether or not autistic people have the term disability, regardless of how that impacts them. I’m autistic myself and in no way, is it not a disability for me. For a good majority of autistic people it is. If you wanna do something about the corporate elite start taking up activism and going on strikes. Screeching about labels does nothing to the bourgeoisie class.

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Anonymous #4 5w

I don’t really care what you say. The autistic suicide rate is five times higher than the Neurotypical rate so the current framework we have is doing nothing it is providing no support no nothing.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I never mentioned the suicide rate. That doesn’t have anything to do with a label. It is a disability. There are so so so so so many sources that backed me up. I’ve only seen you post one.

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Anonymous #4 5w

I have done nothing but listen to the students. The fact that autistic suicide rates are five times higher then the Neurotypical means that what we are doing right now is not effective because please tell me how labeling a disability is helping a single person because it’s not because the suicide rate is through the roof for autistic people

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Anonymous #6 5w

No holy cow how are you in college? Oh my God you take my point and you like throw it across the baseball field and come back with the soccer ball. the elite wanted worker bees back when the original idea of autism was first developing they wanted, worker bees, the corporate elite wanted worker bee and anyone who didn’t fit into that worker B narrative Was considered a disorder so if you wanna keep that mentality, then go for it

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Anonymous #4 5w

No saying that something existed in the past and implies nothing about the future literally nothing. I feel like you’re the type of person who would look at the sale of ice cream going up in the summer and shark attacks increasing in the summer and think that there is a correlation between ice cream and sharks

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Anonymous #4 5w

Your argument is running out because you guys have nothing to grasp on this current framework of disability is doing nothing. It doesn’t provide additional support for people if it did, we would see the suicide rate go down, but in fact, the autistic suicide rate is five times higher than a Neurotypical person so

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Anonymous OP 5w

In what way did I stretch your point? I’ve just been addressing the repeated “billionaire elite” point you keep spamming. They don’t care what autistic people are labeled as so long as they have a subservient working class. If it would make money and look good for PR, they would be screeching the same stuff you would. This whole conversation, plays exactly into the bourgeoisie elite. Also, I’m literally I sociology, this is my bread and butter. Save the lecture for someone dumber.

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Anonymous OP 5w

It does provide additional support depending on where you live and what kind of support you get. You are refusing to listen to anybody who knows anything about this subject. I wish you the best of luck in your journey to accept your disability.

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Anonymous #4 5w

I am mentioning it. I am mentioning the suicide rate because the current framework is doing nothing. You guys say that having it labeled as a disability provides accommodations where??? because the suicide rate is through the roof

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Anonymous #6 5w

What are you talking about brother? Oh my God y’all are genuinely exhausting. Me because you guys cannot stay on a consistent argument. I am saying the definition BACK IN THE DAY, Stop bringing this to modern Society. The elites had the industrial era they wanted worker bees. This is where the diagnosis of autism was birthed all right stay in this time. Cause you’re trying to time travel right now.

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Anonymous OP 5w

In that time, they wanted people to act a certain way look a certain way be a certain way the only brain out of all of the different cognitive styles ADHD autistic dyslexia that think that way is the Neurotypical brain so anything that did not follow social coordination or social norms was automatically deemed as a deviation This is why we started to see ADHD and autism the label is exist for the first time ever there was no label of this before there was a concept of a worker be.

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Anonymous OP 5w

So that’s untrue.

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Anonymous OP 5w

ALSO FALSE bro you’re out here LYING your ass off.

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Anonymous #4 5w

Bro, this is not the 1970s. You have access to Google. Oh my God please do normalize you guys just arguing off of feelings please please please start googling before you comment because you are making a fool of yourself.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I never said it wasn’t a disability. I said there’s nothing wrong with being disabled— that we are not less than for being disabled. I acknowledged that we struggle quite a lot, but that being disabled is not inherently a bad thing. We are humans just as deserving of kindness and compassion but we don’t get it nearly as much.

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Anonymous OP 5w

“How is it a disability?” Because it disables us in many ways? “Disability” isn’t a bad word. I’m proud of my disabilities, and I understand my limitations and what accommodations I need. People being shitty to us is an issue, yes, and it’s one that is being worked on by those of us who live this. But saying we’re not disabled isn’t going to accomplish jack shit. There’s nothing wrong with being disabled— it just means we operate differently.

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