Anonymous #5 5w

which tbf i think if there was a guy walking on water and parting the seas and turning water into wine there’d be more than one book about him by his closest friends i think everyone would be writing about whatever the fuck just happened. like a dead guy comes back to life and NO ONE in town writes that down ANYWHERE until AFTER jesus dies again??? okay man.

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No lol Christianity but all abrahamic religions fall under this

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Anonymous #5 5w

Tbf Jesus is mentioned in quite a few other religious texts that aren’t Christian.

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Anonymous #7 5w

There are actually four books about him that are much the same

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Anonymous #7 5w

i personally believe jesus was 100% a real person in history, and i believe he was definitely a “healer” and helped people in ways they couldn’t understand, and that he was crucified. but im not sure if i still believe everything christians think about him and who he was, though.

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Anonymous #11 5w

i think he could be a real person in history, just not that anything supernatural was going on. like iirc there WAS an eclipse the day he was crucified and i could see people spinning all of these stories to explain what happened to explain that because that’s what people did back then, they made stories about gods that threw bolts of lightning to explain storms and who controlled the tides to explain giant waves and flooding

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Anonymous #5 5w

like i do think it’s totally possible he was a real person but that people made all of this fantastical stuff after his death, like granted i’m not a scholar or anything but i think that’s a very reasonable explanation for what happened and how we got those stories, because idk it just doesn’t make sense to me that if someone was doing all that truly that no one would write about it until after he died, unless it was something about the cruxifixction (like an eclipse) that got their attention yk

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Anonymous #11 5w

was told once that there had to be a god because something had to start the big bang… what mental gymnastics people have to do, completely ignoring physics just to include christianity into everything 💀

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Anonymous #4 5w

All religions period.

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Anonymous #12 5w

Me when I make a massive fucking generalization about something culturally significant across the globe that varies widely

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Anonymous #3 5w

There is no empirical objective evidence for literally any religion. There is no evidence for the supernatural, period.

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Anonymous #12 5w

Science measures physical processes. It doesn’t adjudicate whether reality is only physical. That’s a worldview assumption, not a lab result. Also, unless you’ve got empirical proof that logic, morality, consciousness, or other minds exist, you might want to relax the “only empirical evidence counts” thing—which btw is itself not empirically provable

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Anonymous #12 5w

There doesn’t need to be evidence. I’m saying this as like, an atheist. Plenty of religions don’t deal with anything supernatural. Like I said, you’re making a huge generalization when you don’t know how many religions there are and what they all believe.

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Anonymous #3 4w

"grow out of it" is stupid lmao. Would you tell a Buddhist, a Hindu, or a Muslim to "grow out of it"? that's so weird of you to push your worldview onto others. Freedom of religion exists for a reason, don't be weird😭

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Anonymous #10 4w

Is it not wild as well that you would write it off just because it’s believed by people that came before you? You’re doing the very thing you accuse others of. When I actually put thought into it, I found that Christianity made the most sense to me, more than other religions, and definitely more than atheism.

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Anonymous #16 4w

Yeah I was agnostic/atheist before I decided to convert to Islam. Idk why ppl think we don’t actually think this stuff through, and not all of us inherit said beliefs either

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Anonymous #11 4w

I believe similar stuff, though that he was a prophet trying to guide people and not God

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Anonymous #15 4w

No, I should’ve phrased better that I grew up in like. A very conservative evangelical Protestant sect. Like, I thought females had an extra rib for years. I stopped believing around puberty when a ton of other things happened, so now when I see someone in that kind of religion with that kind of intensity, it’s a little shocking to me, personally.

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Anonymous #3 4w

Oh ok! yess most religious people are NOT like that😭

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Anonymous #16 4w

you are incorrect and don’t understand the basis of my point. i want to live as if i was born and knew nothing of the world that i was born into, as culture makes an overwhelming impact on your beliefs, and then look at the evidence to make a conclusion on what i find is the most believable argument.

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Anonymous #16 4w

and yes i would probably not believe what my parents believed just because we’re related, that’s incredibly biased and assumes that your family is smart (mine aren’t, my dad is a qanon trump supporter). looking objectively at evidence and trying to limit my bias due to my identity is my main concern because i actually want to know the truth and not the easiest thing that comforts me despite literally never doing anything for anyone and having zero application to today’s world.

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Anonymous #13 4w

then this doesn’t apply to you 😭??

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Anonymous #10 4w

why are you assuming that religious people just blindly follow their religion? I've studied my religion front to back and most people have. we can think for ourselves💀 you people are so strange, comparing it to chatgpt, im done😭

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Anonymous #15 4w

i have yet to meet a single person who has read the full bible 😭 soon they’re gonna need a tiktok subway surfers version

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Anonymous #10 4w

waittt, you're one of those people who assume you're smarter than everyone else right?😭 it's making sense now. nvm!

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Anonymous #15 4w

how am i going to have that type of arrogance when i didn’t get a single A last semester LMFAOO 💀 could care less if people are smart or not but i definitely respect the ability to think for yourself in a world designed to treat people like cattle. this actually makes you smarter in a way with the amount of effort it takes learning enough to actually make your own opinion. in the case of religion, i’m very respectful (except mormons & other cults) but just cautious because of my own experience

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Anonymous #10 4w

My bad, I assumed you meant that all religious people inherit their beliefs unquestioningly when that just wasn’t the case for me and wanted to highlight that. Getting A’s isn’t the only measure of intelligence; I think most people have the capacity for intelligence in a given domain tbh. I’ve read the Bible (NSRV and KJV), and keep somewhat up to date with the textual studies literature as well

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Anonymous #10 4w

I will say that religion as I & an eminent anthropologist like Talal Asad would define it is just a way of life & beliefs around fundamental truth/purpose. Most ppl don’t investigate this stuff regardless of views tbh, & we could prob chalk it up to a mix of proclivities & environmentally shaped incentive structures. Most ppl just live their lives in systems simply as they see it, they’re busy with other things. Is it better to actually know the substance of what you purport to believe? Yeah,

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Anonymous #10 4w

But it isn't something that's ever really seen at massive scale much. Not everyone can be scholastic, and historically that's been an elite privilege. So: epistemologically speaking if something is an absolute truth, it's better for that absolute truth to be recognized as a baseline in a society culturally, & at a modular level in families unquestioningly than not at all; and questioningly as the individual requires it. I wish ppl would learn more, but not everyone wants to & we can't force ppl

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Anonymous #15 4w

big fan of you saying this while also dodging the question of “have you actually fully read and understand the core text of your religion.” almost like they have a point or something!

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Anonymous #13 4w

you have a really good perspective and you’re pretty spot on here. i’ve often thought that the time i’ve spent trying to logic my own beliefs is ultimately pointless if there is no external change in action or behavior. i will say i was being a bit derisive because my main inspiration were MAGA evangelicals. i realize they’re not really a fair example because they have psychosis, but generally i think religion does have a positive impact. MAGA would too if they ever read the new testament 😭

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Anonymous #10 4w

saying that people are gonna need a "tiktok subway surfers" version to understand their own religion doesn't make it seem like you're "very respectful" but💀

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Anonymous #15 4w

again, i was focused on evangelicals who must have never read the bible because they explicitly go against the teachings of Christ while claiming to be devoted christians. i’d say that a bible subway surfer tiktok is a lot better than the Trump Bibles they sell now

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Anonymous #15 4w

+ you’re pointing out the difference between pointed sarcasm and what i actually believe, i guess i thought this was more apparent because of its absurdity

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Anonymous #10 4w

Thank you! Yeah I don’t rly view maga evangelicalism as a normal form of Christianity so much as just a cult tbh. Although I don’t think it’s true, I think Christianity can do a lot of positive things in its optimal state. People throughout history have taken advantage of other ppl’s search for meaning/truth/purpose by weaponizing it for their own manipulative material ends, & I fear maga is just the latest iteration of that. You’ll find crazy ppl everywhere, gotta help ‘em as possible

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Anonymous #10 4w

ohh okay my bad, i misunderstood, sorry! a lot of people say weird shit about Christians all the time and I'm like- if you educated yourself on the religion you'd know that they are NOT true followers of it😭 people think they can insult an entire religion, when really they mean to insult the people who falsely claim to be a devoted Christian like you mentioned

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