Anonymous #1 2w

Can’t develop that companionship without being able to have it platonically. The best romantic relationships are built on top of a friendship. Not separate from it.

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Anonymous OP 2w

But that also means that just because one person has feelings doesn’t mean the other person has to reciprocate. But girls learn that from infancy. They learn no one owes them anything beyond basic politeness and sometimes they don’t even give that. Boys are taught that they can earn anything if they just work at it hard enough (or that they deserve the best because of what they are not just who, depending on culture/individual parents)and for some that sentiment translates to people’s feelings.

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Anonymous #4 2w

the "male loneliness epidemic" is largely due to the societal structure men set up where they can't be too close or intimate with friends or else they're "gay" and they also can't be friends with a woman because every girl is automatically a candidate for a relationship. yes, people can be lonely for a whole bunch of reasons, but the "male loneliness epidemic" is in no small part due to what op said, where they just wallow instead of figuring out causes and trying to fix it.

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Anonymous #4 2w

The male loneliness epidemic is in the news (or at least it was in Psychology Today) and it’s been a thing across social media. It’s been a phenomenon of men complaining they’re lonely and women don’t want them for several years. But a romantic connection should not be the only one anyone has. That’s a lot of pressure and it’s toxic. Men need to be vulnerable and connect genuinely and platonically if they also want a healthy romantic relationship.

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Anonymous #7 2w

I don’t think it’s immoral to hope someone you like likes you lmao. I do think it’s immoral to pressure someone into indulging in your feelings if they’re not interested. Men and women do report loneliness at similar rates. Men are loud about it, but the loneliest demographic for women is single and SAH moms. They aren’t loud. Both issues deserve attention.

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Anonymous OP 2w

I totally agree that it’s immoral to pressure someone into indulging in your feelings and that both male and female loneliness deserve equal attention. Also, I understand that your original post was (as I understand) about overcoming an attitude that leads to loneliness rather than whether you think it’s moral to have those attitudes. I was just curious about the morality part.

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Anonymous OP 2w

I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying. It’s not unnatural to want affection. It’s wrong to expect it

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Anonymous #7 2w

Naw my morality is very do no harm, take no shit. If someone can’t take a hint or listen to a “no” then that’s not moral.

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Which part?

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Anonymous OP 2w

Given the autism, hints can be very hard for me to read sometimes lol but, in any case, if it’s not a clear and enthusiastic “yes” I immediately assume it’s a “no” and move on.

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https://aibm.org/research/male-loneliness-and-isolation-what-the-data-shows/ https://wou.edu/westernhowl/the-male-loneliness-epidemic/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-kaleidescope/202507/is-male-loneliness-a-new-epidemic-or-an-age-old-struggle/amp

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Men are not “adverse” to suffering from loneliness lmfao. Their expression of it is different to women, but idk what alpha/sigma bs you’ve been drinking but young men suffer at 25% according to some studies, adult men at rates of 15% in others which also happens to be the numbers reported by women. Men also have different reasons for being lonely and a not insignificant part of that is how they deal with interpersonal relationships.

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Naw it’s a lazy hyperfixation I’ve been following for years. I just searched because I figured you could learn something 😄. I find incel/men’s rights activist communities insanely interesting, toxic but fascinating. Could write a dissertation on it but that’s not on my to do list.

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Anonymous OP 2w

I’m also fascinated in that sort of thing but more from personal desire to not be anything like them lol. I’d be interested in messaging about it if you’re willing.

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Anonymous #7 2w

Also autistic here! Trying to date again and it’s been a lot of horny intros, sexualization, and some love bombing. Just needed a vent. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Anonymous #7 2w

Sure!

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Whatever you say bro🤷🏻‍♀️

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Anonymous OP 2w

I can imagine. Sorry you have to deal with that. Vent away lol

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Lmao bro I’m not writing APA works cited for yik yak. I gave three articles that mention multiple studies and overview the stats all from reputable organizations. You are going to believe what you’re gonna believe that’s fine because you're going to be an angry man shunning “weakness” aka emotional depth if you want. #3 is right you haven’t cited anything. Not even one article let alone citing a study. I’m not tracking down my JSTOR access for this shit. 🤣

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I will say sorry for triggering you though. You're obviously going through something. Hope you find some peace.

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