Anonymous #1 6d

i used to do some work with chatgpt until i realized just how constantly destructive and predatory it is. i stopped using it over a year ago. i am an environmental major so it is good to inform yourself and others about the cost of such and its dire consequences.

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Anonymous #4 6d

Genrative ai if abused is bad because people become dependent on it and weaken skills. For this i cant even have this skill to count calories

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Anonymous #4 6d

Lol no one said nuthin

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Anonymous #4 6d

Can’t argue with stupid lol

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Anonymous #1 6d

I agree 👀

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Anonymous #4 6d

👀

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Anonymous #1 6d

😏

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Anonymous #4 6d

Well now it feels like flirting lmao

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Anonymous #4 6d

Or yknow talk to a dietitian. If your school has a dining hall or a medical center I guarantee they have a dietitian that can teach you. I had a dietitian teach me how in middle and high school in a small ass town because I played sports and if a middle schooler can figure it out without ai you probably can too. It doesn’t just make people dumb but it destroys our planet too. Have fun counting calories when we can’t grow food because of data centers and all starve to death

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Anonymous #1 6d

Haha

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Anonymous #7 6d

People say that but you contribute so much to the earth thats negative far more than ai? The dietitan is able to help create a food plan, not count caloric or help me get past 2000 calories. Im a college student, i dont have time to intricately learn about calorie counting when im already learning how to take care of my body in other ways in deep. You act like this makes me dumb but its JUST calorie counting and ai making people dumb is literally for schoolwork NOT personal use like this

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Anonymous #7 6d

Im researching alongside simply calorie counting. But if you expect me to research every meal? Thats unrealistic. I dont have to use ai, but it helps in ways I cant on my own without extended effort that goes towards better things. Instead of a dietician i can focus on work in that time, workout or do my school work instead of utilizing a tool like ai. Ai is a tool good and bad, to do homework? Bad. To cut time off calorie counting while researching food benefits on my own time? Thats well ok

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Anonymous #9 6d

there is also many tools that do not use gen-ai. there are plugins you can get for free, screen readers, contrast modes, narrators, things for navigating websites.. etc. i was not implying that it’s sooo hard for me to do. it is harder than the average person. i was not saying that i “deserve an accessibility aid”. what are you even coming from??? this just sounds ableist. i literally use tts for stuff or features that make things easier to read. it doesn’t use ai. ALL genai use is unethical

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Anonymous #9 6d

i hope you like your water gone and your food shriveled. it used BILLIONS of gallons of water that cannot be recycled.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yeah thats maybe 1% of the water other companies use!! You rant about ai but i never see an uproar against the bigger corporations like nestle, genuinely it seems like a poser move at this point

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Anonymous #4 6d

This “tool” is killing the environment with every use, so….idk why you’re tryna to refer to it as a neutral tool that can be good or bad depending on the usage. It is bad EVERY time because EVERY use is killing the planet… like I’m sorry but just use a calorie counting app that doesn’t use generative ai… this sad justification of using the same tool that promotes CSAM is…well…sad…

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Anonymous #4 6d

i do hate nestle the fuck? do you not realize people have literally been GROOMED by ai? a case recently was a 16 year old who was groomed into committing suicide by ai. people have had it tell them how to commit murder. it leaks conversations with children freely on the surface web. it has made people lose problem-solving skills. it steals artwork from HUMAN artists. it also generates horrible imagery of children, which, was made LEGAL in a state RECENTLY.

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Anonymous #1 6d

ALL CALORIE COUNTING APPS USE AI!!! Thats how they determine what the food is and mass calculate. I use a calorie app alongside basic ai. The tool of getting a burger kills the environment with every use too! Why not be mad about things that hurt the environment way more! Like genuinely ai is not GOOD but its not NEARLY as bad as other stuff you do or that i do by simply living

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Anonymous #4 6d

also, datacenters are CONSTANTLY being built in low-income neighborhoods, PUBLIC land, primarily colored neighborhoods/towns, it’s been polluting water, air, killing animals, destroying the power grid.. i could go on. i could for hours.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Omg no doy? People get groomed on yik yak, its not all of ai, ai is a free tool thats expansive af to do multiple things good and bad 😭

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Anonymous #9 6d

where did your comment go? 🧐

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Anonymous #4 6d

are you dense.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Like gaurd it from insecure and vulnerable people who cant handle something like ai chat, yes, i agree! But im not so weak willed to believe in an algorithm like instagram(that btw does the same) or by an ai glazing me.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Just saying stuff but no real convo is definitely big brain of you

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Anonymous #4 6d

i had a stroke reading this

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Anonymous #4 6d

?????? there are news articles about this?

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Anonymous OP 6d

YOU are just saying stuff, but giving ME no real argument or intellectual discourse, so I sarcastically retorted that you were smart for that. Incase you struggled with what i meant, i meant you werent smart because you lacked giving explanation:)

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Anonymous #4 6d

you are also just saying stuff..?????????? kick rocks bruh

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Anonymous OP 6d

???? I know? But you have a way bigger reaction to ai than to things that are far worse, everyone is way more angry about ai than instagram reels for example. Tiktok is literally a platform to lower attention span. NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THAT ANYMORE.

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Anonymous OP 6d

LOLLL you so slow i cant 😭 bruh im literally saying offer constructive argument or dont bother commenting, you couldnt even understand that, god bless get help

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Anonymous #4 6d

and i don’t like tiktok and instagram????? do you think i do? no. they’re both predatory. there’s a deep, deep, deep abyss of why i hate ai. especially as an environmental major. i urge you to look into it. hope this helps! (:

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Anonymous #4 6d

“you so slow”

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Anonymous OP 6d

It is slang, it means “you’re so slow”

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yes but you dont talk about those topics as much as ai, nor do most people. Thats what im talking about.

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Anonymous OP 6d

I tried looking into ai hate and I agree its negative to the environment, when i applied it against how bad im for the environment in general i felt like it wasnt as big as a negative as me contributing to carbon emissions or me eating out. I did research and found that most things are negative, but weirdly enough ai is just popular enough to talk about, unlike tiktok or instagram which no one talks about as much

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Anonymous #4 6d

yes, i know.

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Anonymous #4 6d

and i mean, huge mega corps also contribute a TON to emissions. shell and big oil do. amazon does. shein(fast fashion, tons of plastic waste.. etc.) i mostly was trying to get the point across that it is ruining our brains, spreading tons of misinformation, ruining critical thinking skills.. etc.

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Anonymous OP 6d

No yeah ai definitely had impacted brains when people first used it and there was the whole panic in schools, i even used it stupidly and realized yeah its bad for me so i stopped, ai isnt good, my point was that for me its a net positive and environmentally bad but not that bad comparatively. Still bad, sure but if im environmentally pro then i shouldnt ONLY give up ai, theres things i do for the planet that others dont, yet i use ai so it takes away from it

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Anonymous #10 6d

gen ai is an abbreviation for “generative artificial intelligence,” which uses already-existing data to generate things like text, images or the like. it can also generate videos.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Does grammarly count? I've been using it for years, but idk if it counts as that.

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Anonymous #10 6d

Grammarly now uses ai but for auto corrections i dont think so

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Anonymous #4 6d

Ohh okay. Thank you! I don't know much about this. I am not on the internet very much. I am on this app because a friend of mine said it was funny

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Anonymous #4 6d

Saying the 16 year old groomed to commit is “weak willed” is WILD and explains SO MUCH about you as if the comments weren’t proof enough alone.

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Anonymous #4 6d

THIS POST was about AI…how tf do you know that OP hasn’t made OTHER POSTS about the topics you are just randomly bringing up? Just admit you can’t stay on topic. You realized YikYak gives us limited characters so we can’t write a full ahh novel in the OG post. You probably shout ALL LIVES MATTER when someone brings up BLM, don’t ya? Acting like we don’t care about anyone else’s lives lmao acting like we don’t care about other bad apps/platforms/etc based on this one post SPECIFICALLY about AI

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Anonymous #4 6d

Crazy idea you can boycott multiple things at once INCLUDING AI lmao you can decide not to use AI, social media, etc.

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Anonymous #1 6d

You genuinely saw my take on ai and applied it to a completely different and not at all comparable issue….you have a huge gaping bias. And im not even talking about OP as much as in general people only hate ai but go buy starbucks and target……..

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Anonymous #1 6d

Oof I meant the weak will is from listing to ai give you advice….yikes you dont understand anything. I think you commenting trice means people can give me a formulated opinion, even tho you said yik yak gives a character limit.

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Anonymous #1 6d

You just dont at all get what i said lol just making up stuff

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Anonymous #4 6d

THAT was your take away? LMAO

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Anonymous #1 6d

…you arent really gathering anything im saying soooo believe what you want about me? Haha

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Anonymous #4 6d

You aren’t really gathering anything I’m saying, broski LMAO but believe what you want I guess 😭😭😭 cute

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Anonymous #1 6d

Copycat 😛

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Anonymous OP 6d

See and thats bad but theres more things that actively do worse than data centers and are far biggr? I get hating on ai but the support to hate on it is bigger than the support to hate BIGGER and worse things

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Anonymous #4 6d

Because the logic goes both way genius lmao but yeah you’re getting it good job

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Anonymous #1 6d

You didnt say anything, i think you arent getting it 👀 😛

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Anonymous #1 6d

Wait you said grooming, i agreed and said thats bad just like yikyak does which you’re using rn and supporting. Sorry someone else said something and i thought it was you. Why use insta and yik yak and support grooming there? Why only stop when ai did it

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Anonymous #4 6d

So do you use this logic when someone complains about their problems and you’re like “there are people with WAY bigger problems that that why are you talking about your small problems?”

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Anonymous #1 6d

No but it someone complains about their papercut while their arm is chopped off im going to look at them confused as to why they dont care about the bigger issue. Ai causes issues you hate but if you focus on those issues then take out the biggest contributors? Not the little ones???

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Anonymous #4 6d

Just because YOU didn’t understand doesn’t mean I didn’t say anything XD but like bruh the upvotes/downvotes are kinda telling LOL

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Anonymous #1 6d

If you listen to upvotes thats pretty telling itself 👀

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Anonymous #4 6d

At this point you just gotta be trolling lmao

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Anonymous #4 6d

No, see if I listened to YOU, that’d be telling 😭😭😭

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Anonymous #1 6d

Alr well this lowkey going no where 😭 ai is bad but you do things that are worse and you dont talk about it as much…ai is easy to hate on and not use, but its not the worst thing. You just wont commit to your cause, if you did then youd quit media altogether and several other things that rot ya brain, groom kids and ruin life. You dont, you wont! Its hypocritical

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Anonymous #4 6d

Hot take? That person would have every right to still complain about their paper cut and thinking that means they ONLY care about their paper cut is an astronomical assumption on your part. People can and do have multiple problems and sometimes it’s better to just focus on the ones that are easier to knock out first. I’m still gonna give a cancer patient ice for their stubbed toe even if it doesn’t cure their cancer and that doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter

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Anonymous #4 6d

Idk I’d say the CSAM, grooming teenagers to off themselves, polluting water, destroying the power grid, etc etc etc is not a little problem? Do you consider those problems to be little?

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Anonymous #7 6d

Well no its not an assumption its just the trend of hate rn IS ai, most people are giving attention moreso to this cause than any other, theres attention for worse causes yes but not as much which is my point. Yk?

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Anonymous #7 6d

This

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Anonymous #1 6d

BRO IM SAYING LITTLE IN COMPARISON TO OTHERS CMON DUDE

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Anonymous #1 6d

OTHER FACTORS HURT THOSE MORE THAN AI

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Anonymous #4 6d

That’s because there’s still time to stop ai. It doesn’t need to become a bigger issue than it already is. We can’t topple the elite class overnight but we can get on their ass about destroying communities building data centers and frying peoples brain with hallucinogenic slop. This IS part of the bigger picture. This IS directly going against large corporations. This IS environmental and educational justice

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Anonymous #4 6d

What are the “others” that in comparison make CSAM and grooming to commit and polluting water etc etc etc seem like a little problem then?

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Its true, nestle is the big example people say. Not really talked about though or protested as much. Sorry but its hypocritical to be so anti something when its sooooooooo easy to not use like ai. The bigger move is to stop yourself from using products you use that are harmful

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Anonymous #4 6d

The amount of assumptions you keep making. Ever occur to you that people speaking out on AI already speak out or have acted on boycotting products that are harmful? That we also speak against war? Speak against social media platforms, surveillance, ICE, etc or other issues in the world? Or you assume we’re ONLY focused on AI and don’t give a shit about anything else? Idk man you come on a specific topic post and go BUT WAH UGH WAT ABOUT OTHER TOPICS???? UGH BAH OOH AH

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Anonymous #4 6d

This is just purity politics. You don’t think massive amounts of people don’t care about both things? You don’t think they’re not also talking about and protesting these things? All you’re doing is pushing people away from caring about ANY issues because you’re being so all or nothing. Yes it’s easy to not use ai!! That’s the point!!!! It’s not always easy for people to not have to rely on corporations especially the impoverished. Let them do SOMETHING even if you want to act all high and mighty

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Anonymous #4 6d

Uh huh sure

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Anonymous #7 6d

Like I don’t use AI. I don’t shop at Target/Starbucks/ChickFilA/Amazon etc. I don’t buy certain brands. I don’t have a music service like Amazon Music or Spotify. I take care of living plants and creatures even little insects. I cut the rings on plastic drink holders. I protest war, ICE, AI, dictators, etc. I’m always trying to not waste food or water. I don’t have insta, FB, TikTok, etc. it’s wild to have an ALL or NOTHING mentality. Better to do as much as you can instead of nothing.

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Anonymous #1 6d

Fucking libtard

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Anonymous #11 6d

lol no

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Anonymous #1 6d

It’s inevitable and it’s not going away we are in a technology revolution and if you can’t see that you’re fooling yourself look at all of the history us humans have we have developed and expanded through technological revolutions like the Industrial Revolution people thought that that was bad and yet it turned out to be very very very beneficial to us as a species! Deal with it or get left behind

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Anonymous #11 6d

Aw it can almost understand

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Anonymous #11 6d

Uh huh sure

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Anonymous #11 6d

“Deal with it or get left behind” and it’s about apps that generate CSAM and helps #11 learn how to wipe 😭😭😭

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Anonymous #1 6d

Yeah that was English totally

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Anonymous #11 6d

Aw cute

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Anonymous #11 6d

All of that and not a single comma or period. Yeah bro we can tell you use ai. Fucking brain fried Neanderthal over here

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Anonymous #7 6d

You people think everything is AI I wrote that with my keyboard because I actually know how history works and how we develop as a species and this era of AI is helpful to a lot of people just as the industrial revolution was.

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Anonymous #7 6d

Ts is hilarious

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Anonymous #11 6d

Doesn’t even have reading comprehension 😔 poor thing. You’ll get there someday buddy

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Anonymous #11 6d

You are SO brain fried you couldn’t even comprehend what #7 said. They said we can tell your comment wasn’t written with AI because it was so awful looked like a brain fried Neanderthal wrote it because it is OBVIOUS you must be incredibly used to using AI for your thinking LOL

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Anonymous #7 6d

It’s ok, you’ll actually understand that AI isn’t going away soon enough. It’ll be with us for a very long time.

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Anonymous #7 6d

Unfortunately idk if we can teach a brain THAT fried 😞😞 thoughts and prayers

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Anonymous #1 6d

You’re nicer than I because I wasn’t gonna spell out something that simple

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Anonymous #1 6d

I understood what they said very clearly

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Anonymous #1 6d

I just don’t give two shits lol I wasn’t responding to what they said I was making a separate point

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Anonymous #11 6d

LOL sure bud sure ya did

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Anonymous #7 6d

I like to do charity work sometimes

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Anonymous #11 6d

Uh huh yup absolutely we believe you

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Anonymous #11 6d

It’s okay dude you can say you missed the point. It’s very very obvious you did as your entire reply was trying to defend yourself about how it wasn’t ai it was typed on a keyboard 😡 but you’re learning! Congrats on trying your best with the punctuation in the new comments!! I’m proud of you 🫶

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Anonymous #11 6d

don’t even call somebody that. “-tard” is still a slur used against disabled people. of course you, a tapeworm, use slurs as insults. you’ve ran out of things to say, so you resort to unintelligence.

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Anonymous #4 6d

wow thats crazy I just use my notes app like I'm not a complete idiot

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Anonymous OP 6d

i’m agreeing with you about ai; the generative ai models you’re describing are unethical. generative ai has been around since the 60s. an excel spreadsheet filling in a cell is technically generative ai. spell check filling in a word is technically generative ai. the way you brought your adhd in as a demonstration of why you if anyone should deserve to use it but don’t need it is what i took issue with.

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Anonymous OP 6d

it’s still there, buried under your argument with somebody else?

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Anonymous OP 6d

diva, i am an electrical computer engineering grad student; you’re arguing with the wrong person. chatgpt, gemini, claude, dall-e, etc. are all detrimental to the environment. but the terms you’re using in your arguments are broader than just those models.

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Anonymous #4 6d

the main problem with that specifically is that it’s just going to make shit up, it doesn’t magically know more about your food tgan you do. there’s charts out there to approximate with, and you’re going to be able to guess what is most accurate on the chart far better than the robot. Claudes going to effectively just do the same thing as googling the chart and picking the first option that is worded kinda like whatever you told it

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Anonymous #7 6d

Notice how you’re not addressing the content 11 is discussing, though? You call him the brain dead one but are you capable of having a discussion about this or just ragging on other people?

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Anonymous #11 6d

You are an empty husk

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Anonymous #4 6d

Are you just not paying attention? people criticizing AI actively criticize the companies and people behind them, which often includes owners of multi billion/million dollar companies who are abusing AI as well…

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Anonymous #11 6d

You are unwell

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Anonymous #19 6d

ykw good fuckin advice for anyone. 🫡

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Anonymous #4 6d

This is not generative ai big difference it doesn't take jobs away from others and isn't stealing others work

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Anonymous #9 5d

No disability requires ai. Fuck off you’re supporting the death of planet and the suffering of thousands

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Anonymous #11 5d

Right which is why we’re in a high chance of a long blackout. Which is why thousands of Americans have no clean water anymore. Which is why electric bills are shooting through the roof when we’re already in an economy that is struggling and 50% of Americans already live paycheck to paycheck. If it’s inevitable, so is our extinction.

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Anonymous #4 5d

“I don’t know fucking shit and I’m too lazy and self centered to do the research. Hey Grok suck my cock again”

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Anonymous #11 5d

We know that you, a brain-fried AI user, wrote that. It's taking your writing skills and your reading comprehension I guess.

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Anonymous #4 5d

They do everything you listed. That’s like their entire purpose. They teach you about calories and nutrition then use that to help you know how to create food plans that get you past 2000 calories or whatever your goal is. That’s kind of their whole job. It doesn’t take long to learn if you have an ounce of common sense and problem solving skills. An ai doesn’t eat so it will never understand the complexities of food the way a human does. It will just make shit up and pull from random places

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Anonymous #14 5d

Notice how their damn near incomprehensible ramble is absolutely worthless here? If someone doesn’t already know there’s a huge difference between the industrial revolution and genai and that the industrial revolution objectively caused immense environmental damage then they’re never going to care. 11 was also already up in the comments not addressing anything just calling people “libtards” so they’re a lost cause and you are too. I’m done with accelerationists bs

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Anonymous #25 5d

also we live in the digital age, nobody is surviving with a traditional flip phone atp

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Anonymous #19 5d

i’d rather be trampled tbh

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Anonymous #25 5d

Same people that would either miss the irony and look at you like you’re crazy or agree with you if you used the same logic to say “gas companies pollute the planet and fast fashion dumps literal tons of waste into landfills so why can’t I dump my used motor oil in the water supply and have a tire fire 😡” like maybe just maybe none of that is good and we should keep our morals and shouldn’t be forced to put up with any of it

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Anonymous #4 5d

people get groomed by PEOPLE on yik yak, not by the technology ITSELF that is completely optional to make and use btw

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Anonymous #15 5d

btw you can be upset about my comment but picking and choosing your environmentalism and shitting on other ppl for not choosing your personal fav contributor is weird! Animal agriculture uses A LOT more water with less progress to reduce the water intake. Not to mention water pollution, residents facing droughts, deforestation, cattle alone are the 3rd largest greenhouse gas emitters. Not to mention the ethical concerns. But god forbid someone calls it out

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Anonymous #15 5d

The difference between Ai and animal agriculture is WE NEED TO FUCKING EAT. Millions of people cannot be vegan. It is a privilege. Animal agriculture does not just feed humans, yk all those cute fuzzy wuzzy animals in zoos/aquariums/refuges? Yup they need it too. No one needs ai. Everyone needs animal agriculture.

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Anonymous #15 5d

Also, before you big fat ass, say that you do not benefit from animal agriculture at all would be completely incorrect. All that vegan food came from the Earth. You need fucking fertilizer. You need animal byproduct Aka feces. You benefits from the shit of animal agriculture.

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Anonymous #21 5d

I’ve worked at zoos, with wildlife, in the pet industry and their consumption pales in comparison to ours. A “privilege” is laughable considering the cost of animal agriculture and cost of meat vs protein alternatives. You’re talking out of your ass with no research to back you up, where are you getting this information? You don’t “need” animal agriculture you want it bc you can’t handle the discomfort of being told your habits are harmful.

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Anonymous #15 5d

I’m not discussing the cost privilege. Some people will die if they do not eat enough protein. Some people do not have access to vegan options. It is a privilege to assume that everyone around the world can be a vegan. I’ve also worked in zoo and aquariums. Humans and animals need animal agriculture or they will die. We do not have enough plant-based food in the world to feed everyone nor do we have the ability to give it to everyone. Even so vegan food requires animal shit to grow it.

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Anonymous #15 5d

There is a massive problem in the animal agriculture industry. I’m not saying that there isn’t. But for you to have the fucking audacity to say AI is better than animal agriculture is fucking laughable. No one needs AI ever. Millions of people rely on the animal, agricultural industry and if we stop it like you want millions will die. That doesn’t seem that vegan to me. The death of millions of both animals and humans.

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Anonymous #21 5d

So again where are you getting that? Plant based proteins like beans and lentils are the most wildly accessible sources of protein. Food is produced on an on demand basis literally basic economics. Btw most farmers use either 100% synthetic fertilizers or a mix anyways bc of the logistics in transporting manure.

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Anonymous #21 5d

i never said i love ai, i never said it was “better” not sure where you’re getting that (again). I said it has less of an impact which it statistically does. It is incredibly paradoxical to be so adamantly against ai but refuse to make any change within your most environmentally destructive habits while also criticizing others for their destructive habits. Both suck! But they are not equal in their respective damage.

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Anonymous #21 5d

that’s not what i said at all. but i don’t think you understand the full breadth of what ai is.

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Anonymous #15 5d

You’re assuming both net costs are equal. One is 100% harm and no actual benefit, the other is harmful (I don’t know why you assumed i don’t want Change you’re just grasping for an argument atp) but keeps millions alive. Hmmm real toughie why we focus on one more than the other

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Anonymous #15 5d

It’s not “paradoxical” to say “hey we know agriculture is bad, but its benefits outweigh its costs. Also Ai is bad, and it has no benefit to outweigh the cost” get your head out of your ass. Stop supporting Gen Ai. When it is going to kill us

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Anonymous #9 5d

Hey so common sense means we are talking about current day events, which is current day ai. I get it, not everyone can be smart but do everyone a favor and shut the hell up

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Anonymous #21 5d

Keeps millions alive? AGAIN WHERE ARE YOU PULLING YOUR INFO FROM?! That’s a completely unsubstantiated claim? 18% of the worlds consumed calories comes from the meat/dairy industry if we used the crop production we use for animal feed for ppl it would give 70% more calories. Neither are going away but negative personal impact can be better reduced by a diet change.

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Anonymous #21 5d

The benefits outweigh the cost is prob the dumbest thing you said this entire time. The difference is someone changing their diet creates more of an impact than not using ai. Wanna talk about what will “kill” us look into the top drivers of climate change. Want to actually lower your carbon footprint and mitigate your damage go 80% plant based. And if not at least not using ai makes you feel like you’re doing something special ig

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Anonymous #15 5d

You know you don’t have to be vegan to lower your consumption within the meat industry right? I medically need to eat red meat even though I’m not a big fan so I get my meat from a local man my grandparents have known for decades that raises and processes all his own beef. Veganism isn’t holy either and supports vast monoculture that destroys the land and local environments. You’d be better off feigning superiority by asking if people go to their local farmers markets and butchers

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Anonymous #15 5d

Also I know first hand from being dirt poor, like volunteers giving my family food so we can have holiday dinner poor, that acting like everyone can just go vegan and buy the “right” kinds of foods is so classist like almost straight up aporophobia. Food is SO expensive, especially good food, and it’s such a privilege to now be able to afford fresh foods, let alone go support local farmers and butchers

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Anonymous #7 5d

alright so 1. I mentioned veganism bc that’s the easiest and offers the HIGHEST reduction in lowering personal carbon footprint 2. I recognize going even 50% plant based would lower impact 3. the goal is collective reduction good for you that you buy from local farmers but that is not applicable for most ppl 4. when did i say being vegan absolves you of all sins against nature? Its so silly to think vegan crop production is so bad for the environment we might as well keep animal agriculture

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Anonymous #15 5d

If you believed your 4th point you wouldn’t be arguing for veganism. You’d be arguing for sustainable agriculture development. Thinking we could just replace animal agriculture with crop production and solve our problems is such wishful thinking. That would cause even more widespread environmental damage and completely wipe out local animal and insect populations because they become pests to kill. And do you know how hard it is to reintroduce nutrients into monoculture soil and reverse erosion?

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Anonymous #7 5d

why do you guys make stuff up in your head to get mad at? When did i say everyone needs to go vegan? Most of the ppl on this app or even in america in general are not living under the poverty line. They are living paycheck to paycheck and things ARE expensive which is why it makes sense to have proper education on food security. Buying POUNDS at a time of beans is less expensive than meat. You simply aren’t representative of the demographic your a part of (eating meat)

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Anonymous #7 5d

you understand we do have “vegan” agriculture? It’s food for the animals we have 😱 That already exists! Local animal and insect populations have been being killed already for excessive large scale production of animal ag and their feed. You’re acting like it would be a huge change with new problems and what you don’t realize is the extensive resources we already use on the animals we consume.

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Anonymous #15 5d

Girl bffr. Your entire comment was about how if someone says they care about environmentalism they better be vegan. You’re just being another all or nothing thinker that pushes people away from supporting any cause because they’re fed the belief if their cause doesn’t seem big enough then there’s no point. The poverty line is so fucked too that most of those people SHOULD be considered impoverished. If they have to choose between meat or ai, I’d rather them choose meat and keep their brains

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Anonymous #21 5d

current day ai and current day generative ai still are wider areas than llms and image generators that scrape existing art. you don’t need a degree to understand the basic terminology of something you’re passionate enough to insult strangers about. there are ai tools being used in technology and medicine that are saving lives and can be run natively on in-house hardware. if you don’t use the correct terminology to describe your opinion, professionals and lawmakers are not going to listen.

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Anonymous #15 5d

Oh wow yummy yes diva let me get some of that grass and grain pulp 🤤 again missing the point. Vegan agriculture isn’t better! It doesn’t fix things! But they’re even more picky with plants because a beetle or squirrel won’t kill your cow but it’ll sure as hell eat your plants. They don’t give a fuck about sustainability either and just leech the land until it’s dead then move because of the expenses of keeping the land healthy. You don’t care about the environmentalism of agriculture of either

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Anonymous #7 5d

dude at my school our counseling center has a whole option for speaking with someone regarding using ai for “company”. OP stated “if you use ai” as in general (all or nothing). You think the ppl going to counseling for using ai from severe isolation are mentally stable? These ppl clearly have issues and saying well you’re selfish! Is not compelling nor productive. The criticism is not effective and you seem to understand that in regard to vegans.

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Anonymous #7 5d

judging ppl regardless on diet/use of ai/ literally whatever the fuck else doesn’t do anything and isn’t a realistic way to try and convince ppl to stop. If you want to be the judge of what’s right or wrong/what’s better or worse then yea don’t you dare make a mistake bc you better be perfect. Ai is becoming a real environment AND emotional issue and this is not how we combat it

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a lot of people end up quit using ai and it's commendable, so i feel like we should people the opportunity to change. i agree that using ai to count calories is dumb and unwise, but telling a neurodivergent person that they're a "waste of space" over an unwise decision is really shitty considering what tendencies neurodivergent people are prone to. you can loathe ai and the fact that people use it, but the hatred of your peers isn't okay

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Anonymous #7 5d

Sweetie they already do that! Are you not getting that? That’s happening! Plus EXTRA carbon emissions, extra pollution, and extra water use from livestock production. Sustainable agriculture can exist and it can exist without the the scale of animal ag and impacts from animal ag.

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Anonymous #15 5d

Ai isn’t that type of all or nothing in this context because ai is a piece of a much bigger picture. Ai, like veganism that you brought up, is part of environmental issues. Ai is part of anti intellectualism issues. Ai is part of mental health and job markets and affordable housing and proper healthcare and and and. It has no benefits and should not exist in a normal persons everyday life. That’s the point of this all. Those people should be getting support from people not an ai. They should-

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Anonymous #7 5d

okay i agree and the way we go about it is shaming them?! Especially in the neurodivergent community, doesn’t seem very effective!

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Anonymous #7 5d

Not have even had access to ai usage like that to begin with. Ai is creating more problems to the pre existing problems. It should not have been allowed to get to this point and nobody is allowed to say see we fixed this problem when the problem shouldn’t have happened in the first place. None of those issues can be solved if we don’t take things out piece by piece. Ai being a large overlapping piece

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Anonymous evilandgay 5d

adding “-ai” without the quotes allows you to use google without it if you’d like

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Anonymous #7 5d

I 100% agree but i really don’t see the usefulness in coming to yik yak and shitting on your peers.

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Anonymous #9 5d

i'm just going to switch to a search engine that doesn't use it. atm i limit my use of ai to automatic responses as i thought LLM technology had been implemented onto search engines for a long while- but upon researching it a couple of mins ago i found out i was wrong. though what im curious about is yalls opinion on those who read the results automatically generated. it seems like it just pulls direct quotes from the top search results, so it doesn't seem so much different, imo.

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Anonymous #15 5d

Notice how nobody said it doesn’t happen? That I said they’re MORE picky about killing off other animals and insects that get viewed as pests. Or that I’m the one that used the phrase sustainable agriculture while you talked about broad veganism and crop production until I pointed out all types of mass farming are absolutely atrocious and switching would just make one worse. You think I support the current meat industry? Sustainable agricultural developments > wishful veganism

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Anonymous #15 5d

Also I’m just curious about this but what do you suppose we do with all of the current animals used in the meat industry? Killing them all off doesn’t feel very vegan or help with environmental conservation at all since we’d have to effectively drive certain types to extinction but they can’t just be released due to the domestication of farm animals and the havoc they would create in the wild

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Anonymous #15 5d

I don’t know about you but I don’t shame people I meet in my life if they’ve been driven to think they have to rely on ai. I’ll tell them about other resources and ways to achieve what they’re trying to. I only give them shit when they’ve been told so much and simply don’t care. The ones that refuse to learn about harm, the ones that shout it’s inevitable when they’ve been told time and time again it’s not, the lost causes that know but consciously (key word) avoid other options

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Anonymous #15 5d

There isn’t much. Most online spaces are absolute hell holes. Sometimes there will be a few people that it actually helps when they are willing and that’s nice but I’ve found more success in community outreach. I’m only here because I’m a yapper. 🤷🏻 I walk in circles around my room talking to myself, on a call, texting someone, saying shit wherever. Helps my brain slow down a little bit

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Anonymous #1 5d

That’s cuz used ChatGPT, if u use grok, it actually uses data and pulls up to date info, u have to know how to use ai in a way that make us not reliant on it, u learn what ai to use for what tasks

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Anonymous #30 5d

No.

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Anonymous #16 5d

Yes

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Anonymous #30 5d

Ai is bad because you’re not doing stuff yourself. Having the slop bot research stuff for you isn’t less bad, arguably worse because you forget how to research things yourself.

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Anonymous #16 5d

Its not necessarily slop if you use it correctly, when the internet came out, people started using it for research instead of books simply because it was faster and more efficient, it will be the same with ai

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Anonymous #16 5d

I use it heavily for work to aid in software development, we have a monthly budget as an employee that we are required to use. We have it generate the majority of our code and now we mainly do code review, it has allowed us to program and release multiple times faster due to offloading the work needed, love it or hate it, it’s the future

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Anonymous evilandgay 5d

I use DuckDuckGo, you can even report AI images that show up in searches

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Anonymous #1 5d

Do you use Gemini or Claude or any other LLM?

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Anonymous #30 5d

Not to mention data centers have existed since before generative AI, and AI also existed since before generative AI. And so many things damage the environment, yet we use them every day. Also some people say generative AI and then talk exclusively about ChatGPT. I use Claude and Gemini for a lot of things which ChatGPT isn’t as good at.

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Anonymous #2 5d

AI has existed before generative AI like ChatGPT, but people only care now. China was already using video surveillance with facial recognition long before November 30, 2022, and data centers also existed before then. Using plastic and many other things also harm the environment, yet people only care about generative AI.

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Anonymous #12 5d

downloaded it a couple hours ago

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Anonymous #2 5d

I’m not saying AI is good or that we should let AI companies exploit people and resources. We should still pressure them to do things ethically. Everything comes at a cost. I ride my bike to a lot of places instead of driving. And yes we shouldn’t just use AI if something can be done without AI. But we can’t eliminate it completely. Also, people can clone their voice before getting their larynx and tongue removed due to cancer.

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Anonymous #2 5d

I never used AI until mid-2025 because it honestly sucked before then.

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Anonymous OP 5d

They’ve existed before generative AI. And data centers aren’t the only thing that does that. Coke has done that with their factories in Mexico. They’ve taken all the water from communities, made entire towns dependent on Coke because it’s cheaper than bottled water.

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Anonymous #15 4d

Ayo guess what my biochem just said in lecture today? That all humans need animal agriculture

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Anonymous #31 4d

and do you think i support that either?

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Anonymous #5 4d

mad because you’re wasting your brain away and becoming stupider.

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Anonymous #1 4d

NO LMAO

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Anonymous #31 4d

do you also think i’m okay with this?????????? oml

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