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LeBron is the šŸ, donā€™t get me wrong. But, when people compare finals opponents between MJ and LBJ and say LBJ was going against a stacked team and didnā€™t have teammates. Bro he was LeGM. It was his decision to have JR Smith and Iman Shumpert on the team.
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Anonymous 8w

There is no šŸ. Itā€™s all subjective. Jordan went 6 for 6. But never made it out the first round without Scottie or beat Bird in the playoffs. Didnā€™t beat magic until Kareem retired also. To be the best you have to be able to beat the best Lebron has 4 rings despite recruiting the most level of talent played with amongst all HOFers ever.

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Anonymous 8w

Thereā€™s still a limit to how much power LeBron ever had. If he had as much as you think he wouldnā€™t have been forced to leave the Cavs and go to Miami. And kyrie probably wouldnā€™t have been traded either

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 8w

Different ownership between the cavs he left and the Cavs he came back to

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

And both times they didnā€™t make any good roster building moves eventually forcing him to leave. If he was le gm either time he wouldā€™ve won more than one chip

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 8w

He got all the players he wanted. The reason he didnā€™t win more chips is cause KD joined the warriors and kept stopping him. Otherwise he probably wouldā€™ve had more rings as well. So to say he didnā€™t have as much power is true but he had a lot more then most players do. He wanted Kyrie and love they got him Kyrie and love. A lot of his role players were stars well past their primes but Iā€™d still rather have Ray Allen as role player spotting up than someone like Jordan Farmar.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 8w

Using the rings as argument too also becomes iffy when Russel has 11 and no one says heā€™s the goat, not even old heads obsessed with MJ

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 8w

They literally traded away kyrie and btw kyrie was drafted the year LeBron left dawg šŸ˜­

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 8w

*the year after

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 8w

Yeah but he only agreed to join Cavs once they assured love was on the way. Secondly they traded Kyrie cause he asked for it not cause they wanted to.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 8w

Kyrie demanded a trade so he didnā€™t need to be in Bronā€™s shadow. You canā€™t blame the organization about that. It was him or LeBron.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

Right Im aware of that but #2 made it seem like Cavs did that in their own accord

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 8w

Newsflash: you donā€™t have to trade a player after they request it

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 7w

the rings argument will always be stupid. rings are a team award. no one player can win a championship by himself without a good roster. context and competition matter a lot more imo.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

Bron the šŸ

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 7w

Newsflash this the is the nba. Not a random take of yoursā€¦ franchise is not gonna pay a player to sit and not play for them

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

Ima huge Bron guy problem is there just isnā€™t a correct definite answer. Itā€™ll all come down to what people standards are and everyone has different standards

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