Anonymous OP 12h

That's crazy because Clark is pretty idolized. But also we don't have any positive male role models. We're in a world where men are told they are evil, they are broken, they are the problem. Most young men are struggling mental health wise and we haven't had a positive role model for men in ages. There's hundreds of positive women support groups but for men it's pretty lacking. Instead of blaming people for not living up to ideals, we should question why things are the way they are.

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Anonymous #2 11h

There are good male role models though & not just comic book ones. But even beyond that, why shouldn’t boys see women as people to look up to too rather than just men? Seeing women as lesser but also wanting them is part of why men are lonely.

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Anonymous OP 11h

Men do see women as people but men need positive male role models. Just like girls need positive girl role models. It's not about seeing women as lesser, they aren't. Being a man and a woman are very different roles and they have very different burdens and stresses in society. They need different role models. Men need positive examples of what being a man is, not Andrew Tate. When people like Andrew Tate are the loudest voices in the room on masculinity, that's the voice that gets heard.

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Anonymous OP 11h

Can you name some positive male role models for gen-z? Because miss rachel is the closest thing we got.

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Anonymous #2 11h

Seeing gender as a harsh dichotomy is part of the problem, because rather than trying to be partners men think they need to be leaders in a relationship and then they crack under that pressure. But again there are men like speechprof, Tom Holland, Mr. Roger’s, and The Rock to name a few.

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Anonymous OP 11h

I definitely don't see it that way, but men and women have different experiences in this world. . Mr Roger's is NOT a Gen Z role model, tom holland is an actor, not a role model. And the rock is NOT a good role model. You keep lecturing me on what men think and how they act, frankly I don't think we're going to see eye to eye. I'm SHOCKED you don't agree there's a lack of positive male role models. I've heard so many women discuss this. Have a good day.

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Anonymous OP 11h

Just curious but would you be comfortable with a man telling you how to be a woman or how a woman should act? Because that's kinda what both genders need positive male role models they can look up to. That doesn't mean I see women as lesser. I'm VERY strongly into the belief that we should be partners.

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Anonymous #2 10h

I wasn’t telling any man “how to be a man.” All did was lament men don’t want to be like Clark. People tell me “how to be a woman” all the time, men included. And not in a “oh man I wish women wanted to act like __character__” but in a “this quality you have isn’t ladylike enough for me so you should change it” way. That’s life. People are going to have opinions, take or leave em.

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Anonymous OP 10h

Men DO want to be like Clark. He's strong, attractive, kind, very tall, has great hair, he works hard and is usually depicted with a partner and lots of friends and family. People DO see Clark as someone to look up to. But people don't say "I look up to Clark Kent" they say Superman because that's the characters name.

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