
As a person with BPD And a person who dealt with a parent that had it give your ppl some grace it’s hard already on them with the BP swings the D just makes it even harder especially when they try and it hard for the person with BPD to budge it’s not that we are the worse we require a lot more attention care and grace when we are the ones who have the diagnosis not them so we also have to teach them how to care for us as we want to be cared for
Ok, let’s not say everyone. Theres alot of people who also understand the disorder and have empathy towards it. Having BPD doesn’t automatically make you a bad guy, it’s your character that is exacerbated by BPD. That is what makes you the bad guy. Some people understand that difference and others do not.
lol, I knew someone was gonna get all offended by my wording. Anyway, I never said OP was the bad guy. When I used the word you/your it wasn't directed to OP or anyone. I was using it in general. Don't be so sensitive, not everyone on here has malice on their mind. But talk about nitpicking my word choice huh?
I’m not nitpicking, it’s not even strictly an issue of phrasing. you literally said “that is what makes you the bad guy” in response to a post venting about how people with BPD are demonized… and how exactly is the part about “your character exacerbated by BPD” supposed to be interpreted as anything other than weirdly negative? you’re just making excuses for the vilification of people with BPD, no shit “someone was gonna get all offended”
…yeah? i never said it wasn’t? if someone else has a problem with interpersonal relationships i wish the best for them and believe that they should have access to free mental health services and that any medication they might need would be free as well. at the same time i don’t want to have an interpersonal relationship with that person because i know it will be unstable because that is the reality of the disorder?
what I’m trying to understand is whether you reject the idea of friendship with all / most mentally ill people—given that all of us are by definition unstable or dysfunctional in some clinically significant way—, or if you reserve that type of presumptuous bad faith generalization strictly for people with BPD
you obviously don’t owe friendship to anyone in particular, right—that’s your boundary to set. that being the case though, surely you understand how it might be unnecessarily cruel to pull up to a thread like this with an attitude of “well I’m pro mental health, but anyone with THAT diagnosis is the wrong kind of crazy, so of course it’s just fine if no one wants to support you”? when you could have just as easily kept scrolling?
ohh i see what you mean. this is generally for all people who cannot maintain adequate friendships/appropriate relationships. its not BPD specific or even cluster B specific. definitely don’t think BPD is “irredeemable evil person disease,” my point is just that it’s important to recognize that its possible to simultaneously be pro mental health and also not want people who will put strain on you in your life even if they have a mental health disorder that significantly affects their behavior
so to be clear: when you said "people who are diagnosed with a condition that literally makes their interpersonal relationships unstable" in response to a post specifically about BPD, you Weren't specifically referring to BPD? this is something you would say in response to a thread about Any mental health condition? when you say "people who cannot maintain adequate friendships", that's not an assumption you're making about BPD in particular, even though the context was strictly discussing BPD?
do you not see a problem with reading the phrase “dealing with someone with BPD”, no elaboration on symptoms or interpersonal setbacks, and then replying with a comment about “people who will put strain on you”? because that’s a presumed correlation on your part. unless you think of all mentally ill people as innately “putting a strain on” others… which would also not be a “pro mental health” mentality in the slightest
my perspective on this is generally about people who have unstable relationships, which applies to BPD but is not BPD exclusive. for BPD, unstable interpersonal relationships are a key element of the disorder and in the diagnostic criteria, no? as you said, interference in ability to function is a big part of what defines a disorder, and for some disorders, BPD included, that affects relationships strongly. I also don’t think its unreasonable to say that having an unstable relationship (1/?)
with someone as a result of a symptom of their disorder puts strain someone. being mentally ill means that your behavior will be affected by your mental illness, and by the nature of having relationships with people, your behavior will affect your relationships with other people. again, i believe that people with BPD should have access to more care. considerably more research needs to be done on BPD. i just finished a final paper for a class on BPD and the lack of research was astounding. (2/?)
and with all that being said, we still have to face the reality of these disorders. having BPD doesnt make you Evil McIrrideemable, but it is a disorder and it does negatively affect interpersonal relationships. if anything ive said thus far is wrong or theres a problem with my logic, i would be very appreciative if you could point it out. but the way i see it currently is that this is just how it is. honestly, this is the REASON that we need more free mental health care offered to people. (3/3)
unstable relationships are listed as part of the criteria, but diagnostic criteria is meeting five out of the nine listed traits / behaviors, not necessarily all of them. so that doesn’t change anything. I already pointed out at length what the problem was with your reply in-context: you read a post saying “it sucks that so many people with ostensibly ‘pro mental health’ attitudes still assume the worst of people with BPD” and your response was to jump to the conclusion that the lack of support-
-that OP was referring to must be justified. you read “someone with BPD” as “people who are diagnosed with a condition that literally makes their interpersonal relationships unstable”, which Is a generalization on your part and Does Not apply to everyone with BPD. you said you “know” a relationship with someone with BPD will be unstable “because that is the reality of the disorder”, when you Don’t know that, because not every single person with BPD is unstable in all their relationships
I’m not interested in continuing to talk in circles with you on this subject. suffice it to say that if you really just finished a final paper on BPD but then went on to say everything that you did in this thread, I don’t have much faith in the scope of what you learned from that research / writing. especially if you still see a single item from the diagnostic criteria and think it applies to everyone with the diagnosis
the only thing the phone has caused is your complete lack of intelligence. mental illness has quite literally existed since the dawn of time, stemming all the way back to the neolithic period and even before that, and it's comical you think that it's some made up concept resultant of technological advancements. you'd know more if you actually put your phone to good use and did some research, just saying.