- karma. His poor children lost their father. Some people even advocated for the death of his wife and children after to “stop the bloodline.” I think I know who the real evil people are; the people that call to violence, not the ones saying controversial words. I wish we could be civil about this but I KNOW if i opened this dialogue to my deranged left friends they would rake me over the coals. I respect your POV though. I understand where you’re coming from, I just see it differently
You guys really just want everyone that you dislike to die. Guys, people could say the same about you. Your family or friends. I really hope you guys change this toxic mindset. I only want people to let others voice themselves and keep it nonviolent. Please. Just talk. Dancing on graves is sick. I hate being part of the left side, this is gross
ppl can feel bad or not feel bad about his death, but we all just need to move on. we’re overdramatizing this because it’s become so politically charged. he was a hateful dude that got killed. he ruined lives with his rhetoric, even his own. but the reality is the world didn’t stop spinning when he died, and fascists would prefer us distracted by the semantics of his death instead of holding them accountable for fueling a violent political and social climate.
This is where I disagree with most. The feeling bad part is whatever but its moreso the grave dancing. There is no overdramatizing because you know why? The mask is off now for people that are for assassinations. All over social media people supporting and praising it. This isn’t even about politics anymore. Its just a revelation that there are so many sociopaths that could one day turn on your and wish for your death if you don’t follow their righteous path. They will blame you for your death
- because “words are violence.” I heavily disagree with that idea. He can not ruin lives with semantics. He spoke, he conversed, he talked. And now we will no longer see discussion, only more violence. I don’t even have tiktok but what I saw come off of their lately….yikes. Society is doomed if we let these people fuel actual violence
words absolutely can be violence. he didn’t just talk to people, he didn’t converse. he debated. he fought until he thought he had won. have you actually watched his “conversations?” he impacts legislation with his words. he was the ceo of turning point usa, and was friends and allies with major repulican politicians. you cannot pretend he has not ruined lives with his words. people kill themselves over what he has said and the fear he has caused
I guess I will just have to disagree with how you view him because I can not attribute someone’s life being taken to “his words” being the gun shot. I don’t think you’ve watched his conversations if you think debating was all there was to it. I don’t think people should prefer echo chambers. They should talk/disagree/debate. At least we can find compromise there. Not anymore. And I’m sorry, his beliefs mirror a lot of people’s beliefs so should they all be classes as violent? Should a big
- portion of the country be painted as violent for their beliefs? No. If you think that, you’re the one ruining this country. Most people want to make their home a better and safer place. We disagree on how to do that. Everyone does. At this rate, people we think similar to now will be our enemies in the future and that is a scary thought. This is a slippery slope. Stop building a strawman of this person.
humanity isn’t debatable, and that’s precisely the problem with these political commentators. words are mightier than the sword. racism is fueled by words first. misogyny is fueled by words first. ableism is fueled by words first. even the stigma of talking about one’s mental health is fueled by words first. violence doesn’t appear out of a vacuum. yes, offensive and controversial speech is protected, but words always matter, especially from someone in a position of influence.
I see your points, but I can not equate them to violence or more powerful than actually wielding the sword on someone. Because if thats the case, actual violence is nothing compared to these words. Words matter but words are not violent unless they are threats and ofc racism/ableism. I don’t think this is what we are talking about here because people are disagreeing with these descriptions of his rhetoric. It’s too much to get into. All in all, he didn’t deserve to die. I don’t want to hear
fine, you see it differently. but if this hasn’t taught you that no one is protected from political violence, then i’m not sure what will. he is only one of dozens of ppl who have fallen victim over the past year, and if you think that these incidents happen in isolation and aren’t in fact impacted by the turbulence of the current political climate which he in part contributed to, then i’m not sure what to tell you. holding someone accountable isn’t advocating for violence.