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We are talking about two different things. I’m talking about the bedroom situation that happened in the finale.

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I don’t care how frustrated you are. If someone says no to you asking for sex, you cut that shit out immediately. You don’t continue to push them or threat them with having a bad day. Also, since the communication between the two of them have been that bad then why would she even think that he’d be open to having sex when the problem they’re having is that she isn’t okay with pda but is okay with sex and he doesn’t get that?

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He just did an interview saying that she wanted to have sex with him at first. Then she asked for cuddles.

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Anonymous OP 56w

So that means she clearly accepted his answer of no to sex? Otherwise she would’ve continued to ask about it rather than asking to do something else that is still intimate but won’t require him to stay awake long

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Still doesn’t take a way from the fact that he had to tell her no twice for her to switch gears. Again if someone says no to you asking for sex you should stop asking immediately. No means no. And even when she switched to asking for cuddles, she still wasn’t in the right because she basically threatened him aka cuddle me or you’re going to have to deal with me being upset.

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But he also didn’t want to cuddle her. He clearly didn’t want to touch her and he didn’t. Consent isn’t only about sex. You do know that right? You don’t have unlimited access to someone’s body and if in that moment he didn’t want to cuddle her then he doesn’t have to.

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Anonymous OP 56w

So you’re saying just because he didn’t give in then it’s no problem? Because she wasn’t just asking. If it was just asking she would’ve stopped at “so cuddle me then,” but instead she took it a step further and said “if not cuddling me is worth me being upset tomorrow that’s the battle you’re picking so congratulations.” Yall always forget that part like it isn’t important. She basically told that man “cuddle me or else” which is the problem. That’s not okay behavior.

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It quite literally is cuddle me or else because she’s saying if you don’t cuddle me then im going to be upset tomorrow. It’s not a clumsy way of saying anything. She was trying to get him to do what she wanted by letting him know that things are going to be difficult tomorrow if he didn’t start complying. And if he did suddenly cuddle her then it wouldn’t have been because he wanted to but because he was trying to avoid her bad attitude.

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Anonymous OP 55w

He’s already expressed his disinterest in doing anything with her so why would she need that last statement. You’re saying we can criticize her communication but you’re not looking at what she’s saying and the tone they were said in. Instead you’re excusing it by calling it “clumsy” and drawing conclusions on what they meant in that moment with context from later on in the episode.

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