Anonymous #2 8w

?? girl be fr

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Anonymous #1 8w

you gonna answer the question?

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Anonymous #2 8w

sure, the fact that she sexually harassed and attempted to coerce chris on live tv, the way she yelled at talked down to cussed out bombshells behind their backs, the 3-4 hour long conversation where she yelled at Jeremiah blaming him for everything the way every single one of her “apologies” had a “but you did this which is why i did that” “Oh she got no sleep oh it was such a stressful environment” absolutely but it was like that for EVERYONE in that villa and huda was the only crashing out

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Anonymous #2 8w

like that

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Anonymous #1 8w

how is she sexually harassing him when she just wanted to cuddle? not saying the way she went about it was correct, however to say she was sexually harassing or trying to coerce him is such a stretch. i don’t agree with her cussing people out as well. she did apologize though and take accountability for her actions. she was not the only one that crashed out, many other people did in that villa did.

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Anonymous #1 8w

i genuinely do believe that the downfall of her relationship with jeremiah was bc of everyone else’s involvement. a lot of the islanders and america wanted to sabotage their relationship and that’s why her crash outs were a lot more emotional. not to excuse them, but to give context. i genuinely do believe huda and jeremiah could’ve worked it out if they had a private relationship. it being publicized was the downfall of that relationship.

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Anonymous #2 8w

Chris said he told her earlier that day he was not comfortable having sex with her that night the full conversation was edited down but she was trying to initiate sex even tho he had firmly set a boundary on that

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it was probably edited out, and he doesn’t have to say anything to make it not be true. if he just didn’t feel like arguing that makes sense i think people being so quick to defend such a genuinely uncomfortable ass situation is so fucking weird and exactly why it’s hard for men to speak up about assault and harassment

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Anonymous #1 8w

i’m not defending anybody or anything. however, if chris never explicitly said he was assaulted or harassed, to put that kind of assumption out there is dangerous. it’s reality tv, we just watch from our homes. we don’t know wtf happened. but saying things like that is a very serious allegation that shouldn’t be taken lightly. unless chris ever said that was his experience, which he hasn’t, all of this is speculation.

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Anonymous #2 8w

it’s not dangerous to put a label on what he said he said she knew he didn’t want sex and she still tried to initiate it doesn’t matter if he says it’s harassment or boundary pushing or not, that’s what it is. period. plus victims ESPECIALLY men often have a really hard time labeling what happened bc they don’t realize that’s what it was until a lot later

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Anonymous #1 8w

by that logic then, chris sexually harassed huda bc he got upset with her when she wouldn’t kiss him publicly and would not respect her boundaries. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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Anonymous #1 8w

if people are going to accuse huda of sexual harassment for expressing emotional hurt and wanting to cuddle, then they need to be just as critical of chris pressuring her to kiss him despite her clear discomfort. otherwise, you’re applying a double standard.

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Anonymous #1 8w

if we’re stretching the definition this far, then everything can be called harassment — and that’s not how this should work.

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Anonymous #2 8w

no that’s no true tho bc he did respect her boundaries bc he said ok i don’t get it but im not going to try and kiss you again and he didn’t try physically to kiss her again

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Anonymous #1 8w

respecting someone’s boundary means not just backing off physically, but also not making them feel guilty for having the boundary in the first place. chris didn’t do that. he shamed her for it. so if y’all are going to stretch the word ‘harassment’ for huda, then let’s apply it to both. it can’t be one-sided just because you like one person more.

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Anonymous #1 8w

also, you already said you hate her so let’s not pretend this is a fair or neutral take. you’re just trying to find anything to justify your dislike.

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Anonymous #2 8w

no my dislike of her is BECAUSE of this situation and it’s not the same, at all and if you want to blind yourself to that bc she’s ur fave so be it

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Anonymous #1 8w

you’re definitely projecting atp bc i have never once said she’s my fave. unlike you, i’m able to look at the situation objectively and put my own personal biases aside.

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Anonymous #1 8w

if chris himself ever says he felt harassed, i’ll believe him. but if you’re basing a serious claim on an edited reality show and your personal interpretation, that’s not objectivity, that’s projection. whether your dislike came before or after doesn’t change that.

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Anonymous #1 8w

atp, it’s starting to feel like some of y’all want chris to have been harassed just so you can keep demonizing huda. that’s not about caring for victims, that’s about using a serious issue as ammo for your hate. if chris ever says that’s how he experienced it, then i’ll listen. but twisting things to fit your narrative isn’t advocacy, it’s projection.

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Anonymous #1 8w

i’ve already acknowledged where huda went wrong. i just don’t believe that miscommunication and emotional immaturity automatically equals harassment. there’s a difference between holding someone accountable and labeling them with serious allegations that haven’t been confirmed.

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Anonymous #2 8w

chris himself that she asked for sex before and then settled for cuddling. that’s why in the episode, she says “then just cuddle me at least.” they clipped it. and absolutely no one on that show was remotely close to how huda treated everybody else in the villa, she’s an emotionally immature and unregulated weirdo

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Anonymous #4 8w

chris himself said

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Anonymous #4 8w

right, so that’s not what sexual harassment is. sexual harassment involves unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, or other verbal/physical conduct of a sexual nature — especially when it continues after a clear refusal, involves coercion, or creates a hostile or unsafe environment.

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Anonymous #4 8w

if huda asked for sex and accepted cuddling after chris said no, that’s not harassment. that’s asking, being told no, and backing off. even if it made him uncomfortable in hindsight, discomfort ≠ harassment unless boundaries were pushed repeatedly or coercively. so unless she kept pressuring him after he said no, touched him without consent, or made him feel unsafe, it doesn’t meet the definition. it may be emotionally immature or manipulative, but it’s not harassment.

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Anonymous #4 8w

and if we’re going to stretch the definition this far, then by that same logic, chris also sexually harassed huda by getting upset at her for not wanting to kiss him publicly and not respecting her boundary in that moment. watering down the definition just because you personally dislike someone is deeply offensive to actual survivors. harassment is serious, and using that word to demonize someone out of bias doesn’t protect victims, it undermines them.

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Anonymous #4 8w

also, you calling her an ‘emotionally immature and unregulated weirdo’ tells me everything i need to know about how biased your lens is. atp, it’s not about accountability, it’s about trying to dehumanize someone you already dislike. and if we’re diagnosing people as ‘emotionally unregulated weirdos’ now, half the villa qualifies. the difference is you only apply that label to huda because you already can’t stand her.

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Anonymous #2 8w

“i’m not a huda fan” why are you writing novels abt her in the comments id say the threats after she won’t cuddle him absolutely created a hostile and uncomfortable environment and was an attempt at coercion

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Anonymous #1 8w

LMAO, deflection at its finest 💀 why am i writing ‘novels’ about this? oh idk, maybe bc these are serious allegations that shouldn’t be taken lightly or tossed around based on biased opinions…?

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Anonymous #1 8w

idk why you’re acting like you’re not also engaging in this conversation with me 💀

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Anonymous #2 8w

you wrote an essay tryna say coercion isn’t sexual harassment when it literally is BY DEFINITION 😭😭 he told her no, and she tried to force intimacy by weaponizing her own emotions. tryna compare that to chris pointing out that it’s weird for her to literally fuck him in a room full of ppl but not wanna kiss him in front of those same people is so ridiculous LMAOOO

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Anonymous #4 8w

you clearly didn’t actually read what i said if you’re claiming i said coercion “isn’t” sexual harassment. i literally acknowledged that coercion can be a component of sexual harassment, and said that if it happens, then it qualifies. the issue is that people are labeling this situation coercion when it doesn’t meet the actual standard. that’s the part you’re skipping over.

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Anonymous #4 8w

huda said she’d be upset. that’s not coercion. it can come off as emotionally immature or reactive—but it wasn’t a threat, there was no repeated pressure, and she backed off when he didn’t respond. emotional manipulation still isn’t the same as coercion or harassment. those terms involve persistent pressure, disregard for boundaries, or making someone feel unsafe—all of which were absent here. not every awkward or emotional moment is abuse, and we cheapen serious terms when we pretend otherwise.

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Anonymous #4 8w

and my point about chris wasn’t that he harassed her—it’s that if you’re going to water down the definition this far, then any emotional discomfort or reaction to a boundary could be spun into harassment, including what he did. if you don’t like that comparison, maybe consider why you’re trying to twist one side into abuse and excuse the other. words like harassment and coercion mean something. if you’re going to use them, use them responsibly.

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Anonymous #2 8w

no because you are allowed to have emotions about something as long as you aren’t making it a big deal which he wasn’t he kept is super respectful huda crossed a physical boundary

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Anonymous #2 8w

she didn’t say “i’d be upset” what she was basically saying was “if you don’t do this i’m gonna be mad tmro and you are going to regret it bc im going to make you upset too” which is coercion

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Anonymous #1 7w

yeah that is literally not at all what she said and you’re definitely stretching the truth bc you hate her and wanna villainize her even more. i’m not even saying what she said or did was correct. she was wrong. point blank. end of discussion. but it was not sexual harassment or coercion.

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Anonymous #1 7w

i just rewatched the scene. all she said was ‘if not cuddling me is worth me being upset tomorrow, that’s the battle you’re picking—congratulations,’ and then she turned around and went to sleep. that’s not coercion. that’s an emotionally frustrated person expressing hurt in a dramatic way, but she didn’t touch him after he said no, didn’t threaten him, and didn’t pressure him beyond that. you can criticize how she handled rejection without falsely labeling it harassment.

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Anonymous #1 7w

here’s the whole scene if you wanna rewatch it or if you think i’m lying: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8k9aapU/

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Anonymous #2 7w

i saw the scene of you don’t understand the obvious implication there that he. would be sorry for making that decision bc she is gonna make him unhappy that’s you not being able to understand the meaning behind words😭

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Anonymous #1 7w

no, i understand the implication just fine. i just don’t agree with the leap you’re making. there’s a big difference between someone saying, ‘i’ll be upset,’ and someone threatening to make another person suffer for rejecting them. that kind of emotional projection might not be healthy, but it’s not harassment or coercion.

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Anonymous #2 7w

she didn’t just say “i’m upset” though what she did was say it’s YOUR fault that i’m upset and if you wanna “deal” with that tomorrow that’s ur choice

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Anonymous #2 7w

are you on the spectrum? i’m not asking that in an offensive way or anything i’m genuinely just wondering

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no it’s not bc i can’t handle another perspective it’s bc i genuinely don’t understand how you’re dense enough to be missing what’s so fuckin obvious lmafo you use all these therapy words and don’t even know what they mean and it’s soooo tiring like go meat munch someone who isn’t attempting to coerce a man into having sex huda is too bad to have to do that anyway that’s the whole gag yet here we are and he doesn’t want her overwhelming emotionally draining ass

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Anonymous #1 7w

“you use all these therapy words and you don’t even know what they mean” is so ironic considering the fact that i have a bachelor’s degree in psychology and i’m going to grad school to get my master’s in professional counseling. ik exactly what i’m talking about and if you’re not understanding, it’s not bc i’m not making sense, but it’s bc you’re choosing to not understand. you’re willfully ignorant and extremely disrespectful.

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Anonymous #1 7w

you cannot handle a different perspective and it’s obvious considering your dumb ass tried to ask if i was on the spectrum… no i am not, goofy 💀😂 and it’s the fact that you tried to ask as if you’re like genuinely interested or care. you’re trying to be condescending and anyone including me can see right through your bullshit.

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Anonymous #1 7w

you’re stretching and watering down these terms so much when that’s not what coercion or sexual harassment even is. go educate yourself instead of trying to personally attack me or my intelligence. the fact that you cannot articulate your points without resorting to personal attacks is very telling.

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Anonymous #1 7w

and it’s very obvious you don’t give a damn about victims and survivors. you just care about winning an argument. you’re not understanding that while you’re trying to win a pointless debate, you’re simultaneously disrespecting people who are actual survivors of sexual harassment. broaden your perspective and learn to engage with nuance. learn to see things objectively and not let your bias override the truth.

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Anonymous #2 7w

If you had read literally anything i said you would know how wrong you are bc the reason i care is BECAUSE im a survivor and all you know how to do is flip the narrative im either projecting my own trauma or i dont even care and i’m not gonna sit here and listen to someone so socially inept tell me how im psychologically incorrect when you just got all of these buzzwords off of the internet and probably didn’t even take AP psych in highschool like girl goodbye

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Anonymous #2 7w

You do not have a bachelor’s in psychology because i ACTUALLY am getting a psych degree and going to school to be a therapist i pray to GOD you are joking bc alll u know how to do is invalidate trauma you are abt to fuck some ppl UP

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Anonymous #2 7w

if you have a degree in psychology i’m so serious post is on here right now like prove it bc no the fuck you do not

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Anonymous #2 7w

also sorry? being on the spectrum isn’t an personal insult that’s such a weird ass thing to say

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Anonymous #1 7w

since you’re still in school, you probably don’t know this but most degrees have your personal information on there, and i’m not gonna publicly post my private information… i do have a degree and i just graduated in may and i’m going to grad school in the fall for counseling. i don’t need to post a picture of my degree to prove myself to a stranger on yikyak over a dumb debate about love island…

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Anonymous #1 7w

also, it’s ironic that you’re saying i’m flipping the narrative when that’s all you’ve done. you just tried to claim i’m invalidating your trauma and i never once said anything about your personal trauma. and i never meant being on the spectrum is a personal attack in that way. the way you asked it however and attempted to frame it as genuine when you’re obviously being condescending is weird.

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Anonymous #1 7w

atp, i’m done engaging in this conversation bc we keep going in circles and i’m tired of having to repeat myself over and over again. wish you the best in your psych journey

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Anonymous #2 7w

i was assuming you would just cover that part i am actually aware of how a degree looks you actually can’t be that dumb 💀 but no fr since ur so confident go ahead and post it!! prove ur in grad school post a pic of ur acceptance email bc ill post proof im a psych major! bc im not lying to try and make myself seem like something im not

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Anonymous #2 7w

i’m wishing you have a huge wake up call and learn that this profession is not the right calling for you if you are this desperate to invalidate men’s experiences with harassment and coercion and ESPECIALLY is you don’t even know how to correctly identify what that looks like you missed some KEY points in your education and i’m GENUINELY going to be praying for your future clients truly bc WHEW

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Anonymous #1 7w

i know what my calling is, and i’m confident in my abilities and knowledge. my future clients are fine lmao. now go log off of yikyak and touch some grass pls 💀

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Anonymous #1 7w

LMAO, okay girly pop. whatever narrative you wanna believe that makes you the happiest, go right ahead. again, i'm not posting my degree to satisfy a rando on the internet. i do not have to prove myself to you; you're not that important to me💀 you've literally been so disrespectful to me after i keep trying to end this conversation on a neutral note, so idk why you genuinely believe i'm gonna do anything for you 😂😂😂

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Anonymous #2 7w

That’s what i thought lmao

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Anonymous #1 7w

you gotta be a freshman bc ain’t no way… 💀😭😂

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Anonymous #2 7w

oops! wrong 😛 see i actually can back myself up on this bc im not lying 😁

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Anonymous #1 7w

damn, i must really mean a lot to you if you’re out here trying to prove yourself to a stranger on the internet—especially when i never even asked. this isn’t the flex you think it is 💀😂 and honestly? it’s even more embarrassing that you’re a junior in college but still acting this emotionally immature and disingenuous. a degree doesn’t prove character… and you’re living proof 😬

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Anonymous #2 7w

it doesn’t mean a lot to me it’s just very easy to prove which you can’t… you don’t know me IRL and judging off of a tangential yik yak interaction does not give you a wholistic look into my maturity like let’s be so for real you should know this you are either in grad school and still on yik yak for some reason which like… move on! or you are just lying about your degree to give you some perceived level of “credibility” that you don’t have it’s not a flex in any way, you assumed i was a fresh-

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Anonymous #2 7w

freshman when i’m actually graduating in the spring, i was simply showing you that you are incorrect and yeah degrees don’t prove character like congrats? do you know how many evil nursing majors there are out there? you don’t gain moral high ground by not proving yourself it just makes you lack credibility lmao if you proved yourself i would respectfully disagree w your opinions but till i see some evidence that you aren’t just a liar i dont

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Anonymous #2 7w

i’ve been ignoring your catty insults, personal attacks, and ridiculous assumptions this whole time bc i simply don’t owe it to you to flesh out every single one of my opinions about a reality show i’ve left this for dead multiple times but you just keep coming back after claiming you’re over the convo talk about a lack of character and maturity

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Anonymous #1 7w

lol you’ll learn this one day, but confidence doesn’t need to be loud. if you were truly secure with yourself, you wouldn’t feel the need to prove yourself to internet strangers. i don’t need your validation, and that’s why i don’t see the value in posting my degree or proving my credibility to you LMAO. and the fact that you’re unable to just respectfully disagree without me posting my degree shows your lack of maturity.

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Anonymous #1 7w

when i said you’re emotionally immature and disingenuous, i’m referring to the way you’ve been conducting yourself throughout this conversation. i’m only giving you back the same energy you gave me. if you don’t like how it feels, then maybe consider changing your approach and how you engage with people.

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Anonymous #1 7w

i literally wished you good luck on your psych journey and tried to end on a neutral note, even after you were being disrespectful, disingenuous, immature, and rude. you tried to be condescending by asking me if i was on the spectrum simply bc i have a different perspective than you. and the fact that you tried to frame it as a “genuine” question shows that you’re being disingenuous bc anyone with eyes can see right through your bullshit.

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Anonymous #1 7w

then you even tried to say this profession isn’t for me and that you’re gonna pray for my future clients… LMAO, like who do you think you are?? 😂😂😂 i’m able to have a civil discussion but the second you try to derail the conversation and deflect by using personal attacks like that, i have every right to defend myself. so please do not dish it if you can’t take it. if you don’t like how it feels on the receiving end, then change your approach.

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Anonymous #1 7w

also my love, if you’re gonna lie, then at least try to make it believable 💀 “i’ve left this for dead multiple times,” no you didn’t LMAO. i only even came back to this thread bc #4 responded to me, so i responded to them back. and then you willingly rejoined the conversation when nobody asked you to. no one was even talking to you, i was talking to #4. you did this to yourself, so don’t get upset with me 💀 no one asked for you 😂

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Anonymous #2 7w

ending it on a neutral note does not look like degrading my character i fear 💔🥀

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Anonymous #2 7w

i’m not upset at you i just think this whole thing is so funny bc it’s like ?? you are claiming to be something but mystically can’t back it up anyways i’ll be praying for your “clients”

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Anonymous #2 7w

anyone w eyes can see huda was implying an emotional threat to chris with what she said to him but yk here we are 🤥🤥

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Anonymous #1 7w

i never attacked your character. i called out your behavior in this conversation, which has included projection, disrespect, and refusal to engage with nuance. if you consider that “degrading your character,” maybe reflect on why that struck such a nerve. all i’m doing is holding up a mirror, if you don’t like the reflection, then figure it out.

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Anonymous #1 7w

you keep insisting that anyone with eyes can see what huda was doing — but ironically, you’re the one ignoring what chris has and has not said about his own experience. you’re so focused on being “right” that you’ve stopped actually listening, which is exactly what you’re accusing others of.

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Anonymous #1 7w

this hasn’t been a good faith conversation — and that’s not because we disagree. It’s because you’ve continually responded with snark instead of substance, insults instead of engagement, and self-righteousness instead of self-awareness. you’re not advocating for victims — you’re just using their pain as a platform to be condescending. if you truly cared about advocacy, this conversation would’ve looked completely different.

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Anonymous #1 7w

and i stand on what i said. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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Anonymous #1 7w

the fact that you’re trying to appear as innocent in all of this and act like you’re on this moral high ground is HILARIOUS to me, and that’s also why i called your behavior disingenuous.

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Anonymous #2 7w

the fact that you are unable to see that you have been doing the same thing the entire time is so silly once again you are telling me i’m not advocating for victims of assault when i quite literally am an advocate AND a victim all you care about is being on a moral high ground and invalidating a man’s experience w assault if you truly cared about victim advocacy you wouldn’t explain away obvious coercion, and when i initially disagreed with you you wouldn’t have told me i was projecting🤷🏾‍♀️

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Anonymous #2 7w

if you can’t give someone a fair and unbiased assessment because you like or dislike them that’s your personal problem that i do not have

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Anonymous #2 7w

a victim does not need to label themselves as a victim to be a victim some people don’t realize that they have been assaulted until much later and you should know this

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Anonymous #1 7w

i’m going to say my peace and then leave this conversation. good luck to you.

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Anonymous #2 7w

*piece

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