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LGBTQIA+ 1d

Idk how to explain to yall that giving rapists/pedophiles the death penalty in a world where gay and trans people are considered to be rapists/pedophiles is a bad idea.

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Anonymous 1d

anti death penalty forever and always. It disproportionally targets minorities in every group and that’s never sat right with me.

Anonymous 1d

giving rapists the death penalty would also greatly discourage reporting of rape. consider: 80% of rapes are committed by someone the victim knows. imagine you're a young woman or god forbid a teenager and you are SA'd by a guy who goes to your school, an acquaintance, or even a male family member. if you know that reporting them might mean they get EXECUTED, you wouldn't fucking report them. peer pressure would also play a role.

Anonymous 1d

While I, on a monkey-brained level, would love to support executing rapists and pedophiles, on a rational level, I know that there is zero government on Earth in all of human history that would perfectly convict all the rapists/pedos and never kill an innocent. Also once you give the state an avenue to kill people the state can tamper with definitions and run kangaroo courts to execute people they don’t personally like

Anonymous 22h

there are a few people on this earth i’d support the death penalty for but otherwise i don’t think it’d be a good idea, at least not with the trump administration

Anonymous 10h

Cant undo the execution of someone who is actually innocent

Anonymous 22h

While I completely agree with the logic and sentiment and everything, I also just can’t make myself feel like letting those monsters live and even potentially feel satisfied with their lives is correct, after raping someone for 7 hours frankly you’ve forfeited your right to life, maybe they shouldn’t be executed but I stand by that they forfeit their life and run the chance of execution for such a demonstrated lack of care for others’

Anonymous 1d

not trying to be that person, but death penalty decisions aren’t taken lightly. they have their own trial to even decide if death penalty is really a verdict or another decision can be made

Anonymous

#1 1d

Amen. I oppose it mostly due to religious reasons, but I also just oppose it because I believe there is never a justification for taking a life in that way. No matter how much of a monster a person is I really don’t believe we as a society should stoop to that level.

Anonymous

#3 1d

Did you know that that can change? Super easily? I mean they’re already murdering people on the street with no consequences. What makes you think they won’t try to make it a mandatory death penalty for those crimes, and then use it to exclusively genocide queer people? What about this admin makes you think they won’t try that?

Anonymous

#2 1d

Right??? Like if I knew it would kill him I would’ve NEVER reported the people that raped me.

Anonymous

OP 1d

yes, especially consider a lot of rape involves incest. rates of reporting for rape are already depressingly low (5% in japan, 10% in italy, per academic studies) and this would only serve to suppress it further. obviously rape victims usually hate their rapists, but most people don't want someone to literally die because of them, no matter what

Anonymous

OP 1d

i wasn’t defending anything, but simply informing because i study this field. that’s all.

Anonymous

#5 21h

As someone who was raped for seven hours as well, I honestly wouldn’t want him executed. That means there would be blood on my hands that I would never be able to live with. It also means that he would’ve gotten off easy. I want the man that did that to me to sit in a small jail cell for the rest of his pathetic life, where he can’t do anything but think about how he fucked up. That’s all I want.

Anonymous

OP 20h

And that absolutely should be respected. If any individuals requests are listened to it 100% is only the victims, and that’s also why I think it’s important to make sure we view it less as “these people should be executed”, and more of “these people shouldn’t have the right to have a life to look forward to”, even though that overwhelmingly should just include a lifetime of looking at the inside of a concrete box because I do agree with the logic of being anti-execution too

Anonymous

#5 20h

But I also value the impact that holding execution sentences over the heads of these criminals, that’s a powerful psychological torture that I think, even if not really a consideration, can have its place in a system meant to discourage such actions. That and some victims do want a death penalty, which im also not sure how I feel about considering choice and stuff

Anonymous

#2 17h

It would also add so much more stigma to people who *do* report it (it’s already like “oh you want to ruin this poor guy’s life? What a monster!”) and make judges/courts even less likely to find people guilty for it imo

Anonymous

#3 17h

Despite this, a disturbingly high number of people are found innocent *after* they’ve already been executed by the state. I understand what you’re saying, but even with our current justice system, innocent people do get punished, especially if they’re poor, black or brown, or intellectually disabled unfortunately.