Anonymous OP 1w

I read the convo and it kinda looks like people were intentionally reading your question in the most bad-faith way possible. Which I happen to notice happens to trans people (especially trans fems and trans poc) a lot 😬

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Anonymous #1 1w

Like being dense on purpose. No where did I say trans people didn’t belong in the community nor did I make any type of micro aggression. Which is why I STARTED the post off with “this is a complex question” like dog.

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Anonymous #1 1w

And no where do u say they weren’t good either OR disagree with the first person. Like I don’t understand how you could genuinely read what I wrote and get what they got

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Anonymous OP 1w

you didnt ask anything wrong or problematic OP & i agree that ppl here often read things in a very uncharitable way, but at the same time i think it is just kind of a confusing question because different trans women will probably have different individual experiences with each trans guy they know, which might not be generizable into "i feel this way about white trans guys and this way about poc trans guys" if that makes sense?

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Anonymous OP 1w

im curious about your motive behind asking though, is there something particular that you noticed or wondered about which you were looking for input on? i get its an intersectionality question but what kind of answers were you looking for and to what end (i hope this makes sense lol)

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Anonymous #2 1w

This is exactly why I asked! I want to know how different trans women feel about the trans men in their community and lives! If they’ve interacted with different types, do they notice a difference? Do they not? That’s the conversation I was trying to have

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Anonymous #2 1w

It was mostly to see how trans women interact with trans men on a regular basis and how they feel about the interactions. I am POC trans person and I’ve noticed with trans men in particular they view trans women (POC and not) differently due to different cultures and other factors at play. A lot of poc trans men talk about how they feel about non poc trans men and I was simply wondering how that translated to the women of our community

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Anonymous OP 1w

well thats totally fair! i know you wanted the other side of it so maybe this isnt relevant to you but i'll just share my experience. i'm a white trans guy and the area i live in is majority white so most of the trans women i've interacted with have been white. on the other hand i think ive met more poc trans guys than poc trans women. in general i feel the most community with other trans guys, regardless of race, vs with trans women because our experiences are just different.

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Anonymous #2 1w

No, I’d love to hear it! This is exactly what I mean. I just find it interesting how shared experiences create connections. Trans men need to form brotherhood and bring healthy masculinity into these spaces! I like hearing this

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Anonymous OP 1w

however that is a total generalization and when it comes to individuals, things are different. one of my best friends since 7th grade is a (white) trans woman who came out very young, she's a little gnc (medium-short hair, mostly wears hoodies and stuff) but we have a super similar sense of humor and share a lot of experiences since we grew up in the same places. she was the first person who i came out to who was accepting, second person i came out to period (after my mom).

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Anonymous OP 1w

i think my experience is massively affected by just where i grew up, because its a majority white area ive become increasingly more aware as ive gotten older that i didn't know that many poc growing up, and while i obviously don't have any negative feelings about other races i think theres likely a big cultural difference especially if someone is from, say, a majority black area, though part of that is also regional (different states have different experiences)

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Anonymous OP 1w

the poc trans guys i have met, many of them come from less accepting backgrounds or families, which i can somewhat relate to but not exactly as a lot of times it stems from different things (such as religion) than why my parents didnt like that i was trans (my mom is a little TOO feminist and was upset that i wanted to be a man because she doesnt like men) so thats one thing that is both a similarity and a difference!

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Anonymous OP 1w

but how about you, what is your experience like as a poc trans person?

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Anonymous #2 1w

Mine is vastly different. I grew up in majority racist areas so I have a more guarded look to white people (which I am working on deconstructing) but once I came out as trans it only got worse. For me, my concept of gender due to my culture is very fluid. Masculinity and femininity, woman and man often mix but at the same time is quite distinct. I often feel different to other trans people I meet who see man and woman as set things. For me, I find comfort in POC trans women because I feel like

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Anonymous OP 1w

I can heavily relate to them and culturally women are the center. They are the curators of life and it is the belief that what is best for the woman is best for all which surround her. Me PERSONALLY I still feel uncomfortable around white trans men and women alike but again that’s a trauma thing that I’m working on unpacking. That’s another reason why I am asking others and seeking answers. It sooths me knowing my experience why simply a bad one

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Anonymous OP 1w

im really sorry to hear you had such a negative experience growing up, i definitely dont blame you for being guarded around white people considering that. tbh i actually get what you are saying when it comes to the distinct but also not set boundaries of man and woman, i feel very similar!

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Anonymous #3 1w

This general lgbt+ yikyak group tends to have more people who attack first and ask questions later

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Anonymous #3 1w

i didnt even know there was a trans group wow

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