Anonymous og_beer 1w

and criminals and exes

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Anonymous #6 1w

Genuinely, yes. If there is ANY line drawn past which it is acceptable to misgender someone, that line can and will always be moved. Also, it is still transphobic to misgender trans people, no matter what they have done.

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Anonymous #2 1w

No one does that to cisgender predators, or cisgender anyone, because it isn’t a matter of respect so much as it is ‘this person is bad enough where I can be transphobic to them and it will still be socially acceptable.’

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Anonymous #6 1w

Hope that was helpful!

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Anonymous #2 1w

It was! Thank you for actually taking the time to write an explanation - it looks like everyone else just wanted to downvote me lol

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Anonymous #6 1w

I think this is a valid question

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Anonymous #8 1w

You don’t need to respect someone to use the right pronouns when they’re cis

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Anonymous OP 1w

Pause I need you to explain cuz maybe I misunderstood

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Anonymous #8 1w

They just mean you gotta respect someone’s identity. You can still hate on Lily Tino lol just don’t misgender her and use her being a bad person as an excuse to do so

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Anonymous #9 1w

Yeah, we don’t misgender people like Kim Jon-Un by calling him ‘she’ - treating Ms. Tino any differently because she’s trans is transphobic. :( It sort of treats transgender people’s genders as a privilege to be taken away, and cisgender people’s as more inherent and irrevocable.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I really appreciated 8’s explanation too - what I wanted to say, but way more clearly. <3 Gotta say though, the jab at people who downvoted instead of engaging doesn’t…sit right with me? 😭 The original question was asking whether trans people should still be gendered correctly depending on the context - and notably, it didn’t include cis people. The framing of the question implies trans identities are more negotiable, which is why I think it’s fair enough if some folks didn’t want to engage.

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Anonymous #6 1w

But yeah, that “thanks for actually explaining instead of just downvoting me” bit came off a little…pointed? It’s a sadly common tactic for people to slip transphobic framing into “just asking questions” - especially when the question kinda implies something disrespectful, (even unintentionally). I don’t think the downvoters are jerks - I suspect folks are just burned out by that dynamic and didn’t have the energy to engage - which to me, fair enough 😭

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Anonymous #6 1w

Do you think we should misgender cis people too? Because unless you’re doing it both ways, it might just be because someone is trans

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Anonymous #11 1w

Not at all - I'm not for disrespecting people in general, I'm just one who understands why some folks may be upset because I do have trans friends and they have expressed that the (albeit small) percentage of people like the two mentioned still cause social damage on a fairly large scale...there are also people like Blaire White who misgender these people and I find her to be problematic too despite being trans

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Anonymous #6 1w

Mf pulled out the “I have trans friends” line 😭😭😭

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Anonymous #11 1w

Yeah…? That’s how I started to and began to enjoy learning about trans history/issues…you say it like it’s a bad thing lol

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Anonymous #12 1w

I think it depends on the person tbqh. Most people I know are cool with getting they/themmed, including cishets, but some people take offense to it

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Anonymous #13 1w

Cause twitter is not a person

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Anonymous #13 1w

it’s not deadnaming it’s just Twitter idk what this dumbass X thing is

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Anonymous #11 1w

attacking people for asking genuine questions is wrong btw. some people ask bc they would feel wrong doing it (so they don’t do it) but want someone else’s help with putting that feeling into words

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Anonymous #12 1w

We all have a moral obligation to keep calling at Twitter, IMO. It used to be a really awesome platform and refusing to accept the name change is a way to remind Elon Musk that he ruined it!

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Anonymous #3 1w

Thank you! I wouldn’t have known about a lot if it weren’t for them

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Anonymous #10 1w

No offense, but isn’t downvoting a comment still engagement, albeit small? Calling it a ‘jab’ or ‘pointed’ when I simply stated that it looked like people wanted to only downvote me was just an observation on my part. It comes off as though you want to make an issue out of things that aren’t lol

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Anonymous #3 1w

And to add onto what you’re saying, they make it seem as though I’m justifying any form of transphobia just because I have trans friends 💀 when I actually was ignorant to a lot of social issues before meeting them lol

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Anonymous #12 1w

I’m specifically talking about purposeful misgendering, everyone forgets or makes mistakes sometimes lol

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Anonymous #16 1w

You don’t need to respect someone to not be transphobic, and purposeful misgendering of a trans person is transphobic no matter what

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Anonymous OP 1w

Ok

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Anonymous #11 3d

Exactly sweetheart 😂 stay quiet xx

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