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Genuine question for the trans community. 1/2: so I’ve been thinking about getting bottom surgery for about a week now. It first started as a joke but then I got to seriously thinking about it. I as a gay bottom am to the point where I’m TIRED of douching
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Anonymous 1d

there are gay men/nonbinary people who were AMAB that have pursued bottom surgery, honestly reddit is the best resource for this and iirc there are a couple people with similar experiences who have posted on r/AMABwGD

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Anonymous 1d

2/2: And I just don’t feel like doing it anymore. I’ve also been hella into trans porn lately (I feel like that’s important but idk how). And as I genuinely evaluate, I’m open to the idea of having a V but it’d mainly be for the purposes of sex convenience and pleasure. Idk how or IF I’d miss having a penis tbh but I’m still open to that idea. My question for yall is A. Is that a justified, legitimate reason to get bottom surgery and B. Would I be considered a “trans man” if I still

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Anonymous 23h

Also judging by some of your other interactions if this a road youre genuinely considering you need a better perspective on the trans community (even if you don’t consider yourself trans) Chasers/fetishization, dysphoria/bottom dysphoria/gender euphoria, trans history, the reality of trans healthcare, terminology, culture, etc…there’s a lot you need to learn about to have a healthy, informed perspective on this

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Anonymous 1d

1) you would not be a trans man genitalia ≠ gender you didn’t transition 2) while hrt isn’t medically necessary for bottom surgery you would have to jump through even more hoops than a trans person as a lot of doctors won’t operate unless you have an history with disphoria/living as a trans person

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Anonymous 19h

Hi as a gay trans man I don’t care what you decide to do with your body, you just may struggle to find a surgeon willing to do it without a gender dysphoria diagnosis. But please do research outside of porn and talk to more trans men

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Anonymous 1d

this is genuinely the most chaser shit ive ever seen

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Identified as a man?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Wdym?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Yes it’s weird but does it fall under chaser territory if you want to be the trans man instead of being with the trans man?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

How’s it weird? I’m genuinely asking..

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Anonymous 1d

Okay the name calling was unnecessary, I’m just asking a question. Also if I wanted to improve my sex life/experience, how is that dumb? I’m asking you to justify your answer so I can become more educated on that matter and to hear other people’s opinions. That’s kind of the entire point of the post

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

I think it’s weird cause it’s not a matter of “I envy the bodies of trans people and I would feel at peace with my gender if I could occupy this sort of space” it’s a “I’m tired of douching and I want my pussy pounded” kind of thing

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

wanting bottom surgery for the exclusive purpose of sexual gratification entirely invalidates the actual purpose of bottom surgery, and dont get me started on how weird it is that ur literally just saying “pussy for sex = woman”

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

So again, even if I saw it as a way to improve my sex life/experience it’s still not justified??

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

I’m not saying I’d want to be a woman. The V would mainly serve for sexual pleasure/satisfaction, not to be a woman

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

BOTH are weird

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

i hope you get over your porn addiction some day

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

How is it weird tho? You’ve yet to explain how it’s weird. I see it as a sexually liberating experience, you see it as me just wanting to avoid douching when that’s not entirely the case

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

It’s not a “porn addiction”, I’ve already explained that I’d see it as a sexually liberating experience and you just see it as “weird” with no real explanation on HOW

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

i see it as you seeking already scrutinized medical care for an extremely marginalized group who themselves cannot get access to the medical care they need, and you’re sitting here going “if i like trans porn can i get a vagina so i can get fucked 🤓”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

You’ve completely missed my point at least 3 times, I’m not going to keep going back and forth with you. Either explain YOUR point on how it’s “weird” for someone to want to improve their sex life, or just stop commenting altogether

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

dude idk how ppl r upvoting u rn i fucking hate online queer discourse

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

IT DOESNT! mtf bottom surgery basically ruins your sex live because youre DESTROYING YOUR NERVES! thats why NOBODY LOOKS AT THE SEXUAL ASPECT OF BOTTOM SURGERY!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

THEN WHY’D YOU COMMENT? If you hate it and wasn’t planning on giving a real explanation then what was the point of any of your replies??

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

so u know ur a stupid chaser and ur not valid obv

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Says the person who just keeps calling me names rather than just explaining their point. #1 gave a valid explanation that I can reason with and understand, YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO. I’m cutting this little convo here, no point in going back and forth with someone who’s judgment is clouded in being harsh for no reason

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

it’s actually crazy for you to be accusing OP of being a chaser/transphobic while spreading harmful rhetoric and misinformation about bottom surgery

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

this has to be some sort of humiliation kink right? no way ur this dense

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

What the fuck are you talking about Like you’ve been stuck up this whole thread but you’re somehow getting worse

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Anonymous 1d

idc how many ppl downvote me you ALL are stabbing trans ppl in the back by giving men the space and confidence to say stupid shit like this. but why am i shocked trans ppl have been treated like this since forever

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

The point is that it’s not a healthy way of looking at it…you can’t commodify an identity for sexual gratification. Maybe if it was something truly deeper but you’ve said multiple times you only want sex. Ntm you came on here asking a question (the wrong way at that) and threw a hissy fit cause you didn’t get the answer you want. I’m trying not to politicize it and treat it as solely a matter of identity. [P1]

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

Being trans comes with sacrifice. Transitioning isn’t easy and navigating the world as you transition isn’t easy. Yes physical appearance is big but it’s also DEEPLY intrinsic. So it’s wack to come up here and be like “let me get some of that except I only want one thing (a vagina) we’re not changing anything else and I want it solely for sex [P2]

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

How is this stabbing trans people in the back 😭 Your argument is that some people shouldn’t be allowed to get bottom surgery, you are throwing stones from a glass house

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1d

I didn’t “throw a hissy fit”. #1 just failed to explain their point and resorting to name calling. You on the other hand gave a reasonable explanation, that’s all I’m asking for. And since when was asking questions wrong??

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Whats AMAB and iirc?

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Anonymous 1d

So…you gonna explain what it means or just tell me I shouldn’t act on AN IDEA (meaning it has yet to come into fruition and I haven’t begun taking it seriously)?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

amab = assigned male at birth, gd = gender dysphoria, iirc = if i recall correctly it’s crazy these people are responding to you like this. it’s actually pretty hard to access bottom surgery esp if you have to jump thru hoops for insurance coverage. it’s totally valid to have these feelings and explore them, maybe it’s something, maybe it’s nothing. that reddit may be able to connect u w people w similar experiences. in-person support groups and/or a specialized gender therapist may also help.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

“trans man” has the specific connotation of someone who is ftm (assigned female and transitions to male), the inverse is true for “trans woman”, (assigned male and transitions female). this more often comes up w demigirls/nonbinary women who were assigned female at birth. they may be trans, and may identify as a woman, but they’re not a *trans woman.* you may (or may not) be trans, and may identify as a man, but you wouldn’t be a *trans man*.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Thanks for the information. And thank you for genuinely responding with the intent to educate and NOT be unnecessarily rude. Pretty much every one else in the replies just see me as some “weird” “porn addict” when I’m genuinely asking a question to better educate myself and make informed decisions moving forward

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

no literally you’re totally fine, i’m sorry that people are treating you so poorly and i hope you’re able to find a community of people with similar experiences to explore your feelings. i also want to say that it’s not uncommon for trans people to explore their desires to transition thru porn, oftentimes it’s the only time we see bodies like ours represented. also, wanting to be able to have fulfilling sex is an extremely common reason to pursue bottom surgery.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 23h

like, i want phallo because wearing a strap is extremely annoying and dysphoric. idc about being able to pee standing up, and i pack sometimes but it’s kinda whatever. so really if i unpack it it sounds like i’m getting phallo “for the exclusive purpose of sexual gratification”. which like. yeah. wanting to be able to have sex and having it be an emotionally fulfilling and intimate experience with my partner is a completely normal human desire.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 23h

Seconded. This isn’t an insult, just a recommendation that you make informed decisions

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