Anonymous #1 3w

Wah wah wah

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Anonymous OP 3w

You're the one crying lol you just quoted my post with a tantrum

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Anonymous #1 3w

A tantrum is when you try and force others to identify how you want, not when you’re upset that someone’s forcing a identity on you

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Anonymous #1 3w

As you’re pissed you don’t get to dictate who other people are. Here, just to piss you off even more with your inability to police identities: I’m a non-binary woman.

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Anonymous #2 3w

You can call yourself whatever you want lol I'm not pissed but nonbinary woman isn't a thing, that's an oxymoron. That's like calling yourself a straight gay person, you can't be one and also the other. Definitionally

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Anonymous OP 3w

That's not what a tantrum is

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Anonymous #1 3w

Except that I still am and it’s still a thing. Get over it. 😊

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Anonymous #1 3w

You’re throwing a fit and whining about other people’s identities and saying what they are and are not

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Anonymous #2 3w

If #1 knew I was a nonbinary butch who’s on t I think their little brain would explode

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Anonymous OP 3w

Then let it explode 🙂‍↕️

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Anonymous OP 3w

It wouldn't explode

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Anonymous OP 3w

I'm not throwing a fit or whining, I'm making statements lol

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Anonymous #1 3w

Sure buddy. You’d just say I’m lying and confused and not actually a lesbian.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I wouldn't say you're lying lol I would say if you date people who aren't women then you're not a lesbian though. As I have literally already said. You don't have to make conjectures or assumptions about what I "would" say, you already know what I have said

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Anonymous #1 3w

So you wouldn’t say I’m not a lesbian, but if you date people who aren’t women you’re not a lesbian, so I can’t date anyone because any woman dating me would not be a lesbian? So you want me to be celibate? Like a nun?

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Anonymous #1 3w

It’s very apparent you don’t understand anything about being Queer and therefore don’t have grounds to stand on.

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Anonymous #1 3w

you obviously have no concept of how gender identity works outside of binary thinking

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Anonymous #3 3w

I know that if you're nonbinary you're not a woman

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Anonymous #1 3w

Are you trans.

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Anonymous OP 3w

You misread. I said I would say you're not a lesbian

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Anonymous #1 3w

Non-binary women exist. Non-binary lesbian women exist. No matter how much you kick and scream, you’re flat out wrong.

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Anonymous OP 3w

And you can date whoever you want lol nobody is holding a gun to people's heads forcing them to exclusively be attracted to women. If you're not a woman, then yes, anyone who dates you is not a lesbian. That doesn't mean they can't date you lol

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Anonymous #1 3w

So my lesbian ex who before me was a lesbian, while dating me was a lesbian, and after was a lesbian, was just confused for the year we were together?

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Anonymous #1 3w

The irony is killing me

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Anonymous #1 3w

Are you trans

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Anonymous #1 3w

i’m a non-binary man and i used to identify as bi but ever since i started T i’ve basically lost all attraction to women so now i identify as gay cos bi doesn’t fit me anymore. i’m still gay even tho my gender doesn’t perfectly align with the cis binary definition of man.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Google is free.

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Anonymous #1 3w

You’re not nonbinary. You know nothing about nonbinary people or our identities. You’re cis. Please stop making yourself look stupid, because it hurts to watch

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Anonymous #4 3w

Yeah I can find something on google about straight lesbians too, that doesn't mean I have to buy into it

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Anonymous #4 3w

Doesn't hurt me lol if it's hurts so bad then stop replying

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Anonymous #1 3w

There are multiple people IN THESE COMMENTS explaining their identity to you, but you won’t listen.

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Anonymous #1 3w

You’re literally being transphobic. You’ve shown that you’re a cis person who knows nothing about trans culture. You’ve clearly never stepped foot in a nonbinary space and yet you’ve decided you know more about our identities than all nonbinary people.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Nonbinary is an umbrella term for many different genders. Bigender people are nonbinary. Gederfluid people are nonbinary. Demi-boys and Demi-girls are nonbinary. Nonbinary men and women exist and have always existed in our community

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Anonymous #4 3w

*Genderfluid

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Anonymous #4 3w

I'm not claiming I know more than you lol I'm saying what I think and you're saying what you think. Idk why you're trying to convince me of something when I've made it very clear that my position is too much nuance takes away from the actual meaning of the word. I'm talking about lesbians being people who like women exclusively and you're talking about nonbinary people. Nonbinary people are not women! This conversation was never even about nonbinary people idek why this rabbit hole is happening

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Anonymous #1 3w

I’m non-binary and still a woman. 🥱

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Anonymous #1 3w

We’re literally explaining to you that your idea of lesbianism is wrong, by using our own lived experience as nonbinary lesbians to try and explain this to you

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Anonymous #1 3w

You

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Anonymous #1 3w

You are erasing an entire section of nonbinary people WHO DO EXIST. Don’t pretend like your personal opinion of what nonbinary people are changes the literal dictionary definition

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Anonymous #1 3w

This conversion is happening because you are insisting that nonbinary women and nonbinary men do not exist when that is factually incorrect. These identities have been a part of the nonbinary label since it’s conception

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Anonymous #1 3w

This isn’t “what I think”, this is a legitimate part of the nonbinary label that you are attempting to erase because you have no clue what you’re talking about

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Anonymous #4 3w

I'm not "insisting" anything I'm stating that it's an oxymoron. And that wouldn't have even come up if the conversation remained about the post. I literally don't even care to be debating about nonbinary people lol be whatever you want just if you're not a woman, the person dating you is not a lesbian

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Anonymous #4 3w

I'm also just not reading all that I don't care

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Anonymous #1 3w

I’m still non-binary AND a woman and you’re still incorrect. 😊

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Anonymous #2 3w

Whatever you say

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Anonymous #1 3w

Yeah, because I know myself and you don’t dictate who I am just because you choose to remain ignorant.

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Anonymous #1 3w

Who do we think knows more about nonbinary identity. A cis person, or a nonbinary person. Who do we think knows more about wether nonbinary people are lesbians, a cis person, or nonbinary lesbians

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Anonymous #2 3w

Cool 👍idk why you're still going back and forth lol I just said i don't care

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Anonymous OP 3w

There is no debate lol I never claimed to know more than anybody else about anything. I just said what I think and you're taking it as a personal challenge lol I don't care!

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Anonymous #1 3w

You know it actually takes less effort to be a decent person than whatever you’re doing, right?

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Anonymous #1 3w

You’re right that there is no debate, though. You’re just wrong.

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Anonymous #1 3w

You don’t care, so that’s why you’ve told me I’m not a lesbian, and you’ve never claimed to know more, and that’s why you’ve said people’s identity isn’t real, and that I’m not a lesbian. Sure buddy

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yeah I care about the lesbian part idc about the nonbinary part lol people who date anybody who's not a woman aren't lesbians

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Anonymous #2 3w

You've said what you think. I've said what I think. Nobody is changing anybody's mind lol you can keep going if you want to though

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Anonymous #1 3w

Well I’ll continue being a lesbian, and you can continue bitching about lesbians like me

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Anonymous #1 3w

No, you’ve said what you incorrectly hold onto, and we’ve shared basic fact. Time to do and be better.

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Anonymous #2 3w

None of this conversation is fact lol it's all thoughts opinions beliefs and feelings, the only thing that is a fact is words have meanings

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Anonymous OP 3w

You do that 🫡

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Anonymous #1 3w

I hope you never go into any lesbian spaces, because I promise you, there will be people you think aren’t “real” lesbians.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I go into lesbian spaces all the time lol I don't care if any and all sapphics are in lesbian spaces but sapphic and lesbian aren't interchangeable terms. Idk a more specific term than sapphic for someone who dates women and nonbinary people, but lesbians only date women. You're talking about community and your existence and I'm literally just talking about out words and definitions

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Anonymous OP 3w

And it's not about being a "real" lesbian, there are no fake lesbians, you're either a lesbian or you're not

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Anonymous #1 3w

And your definition is wrong. I wish you would stop trying to define my life for me. I am a lesbian. I am not a woman. I am a butch LESBIAN. I’m not a “sapphic”

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Anonymous #1 3w

Well I’ve told you I am, and you’ve said I’m not. So you see me as a fake lesbian

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Anonymous OP 3w

You’re valid. The idiot 1 is not.

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Anonymous OP 3w

Well you are sapphic, it is an umbrella term for wlw and again, you can call yourself whatever you want lol I'm not trying to define your life I'm just saying what a lesbian is. If you disagree, that's your prerogative, repeating over and over that you disagree isn't gonna make me agree

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Anonymous OP 3w

No I don't see you as a fake lesbian, I don't see you as a lesbian at all

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Anonymous #1 3w

I don’t see you as a lesbian either :)

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Anonymous #1 3w

And repeating the same bullshit doesn’t make you correct when we all know you’re blatantly wrong

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Anonymous #1 3w

You didn’t care enough to argue it again and again, and insist (because you did insist on your now deleted post) that nonbinary women were not real? The only reason you suddenly “don’t care” now, is because you realized you were incorrect 💀

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Anonymous OP 3w

Okay lol I don't know you so I don't care if you see me as a lesbian. You should feel the same way about me, idk why this is distressing you so much

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Anonymous #1 3w

It’s distressing me the same way a transphobe saying I’m not actually trans and just delusional is distressing. Do you not understand that when people say things that imply you’re faking your identity and are just “confused” it’s offensive?? If someone told you you aren’t really a lesbian and there’s a man out there for you, wouldn’t you be offended?

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Anonymous #2 3w

You can't say "we all" when it's not everyone lol people are in my DMs agreeing with me, they just don't wanna argue under a post. It's not about correct or incorrect, these are all opinions and beliefs

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Anonymous #1 3w

Well the people in your dms should leave the group.

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Anonymous #1 3w

DMs? Your imagination doesn’t count as agreement. You’re clearly just out to spread disinformation and harm and pretend you know better when you don’t.

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Anonymous #1 3w

I wonder why they’re in your dms and not commenting? Maybe they know they’re gonna get flamed for believing something that’s literally not true? Nonbinary people have been and will always be a part of the lesbian community, just as they are a part of the gay community. You personally don’t need to date or feel attracted to us, but by definition, lesbians and gays can be attracted to nonbinary individuals.

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Anonymous #4 3w

People who call themselves lesbians can be attracted to nonbinary people but unless you see nonbinary people as women (problematic) then you're not actually a lesbian when you date them. You can keep arguing until you're blue in the face, my stance is it's okay to not be a lesbian lol if you date people who aren't women then you're not a lesbian. You're hanging onto a label for dear life when you really don't need to. It's not about true or untrue, it's beliefs and opinions

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Anonymous #2 3w

My imagination? What are you even talking about?

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Anonymous #1 3w

You’re assuming a lot here

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Anonymous #2 3w

And again, im not pretending to know better lol im stating my opinion just as you are stating yours

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Anonymous OP 3w

So you can be lgbtq if you think lesbians only date women?

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Anonymous #1 3w

You can’t be in a group with nonbinary lesbians if you tell them they aren’t lesbians and discredit their identity, yes :) hope this helps!

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Anonymous #1 3w

Just accept that you have a lot to learn, go learn it, and be better.

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Anonymous OP 3w

It doesn't imply you're faking an identity or that you're confused, it straightforwardly is just we disagree fundamentally on what it means to be a lesbian. I don't think you're confused or faking, I think you've thought about this a lot and you're legit lol according to how you define lesbian, you're a lesbian sure, I just don't define it the same way. Sapphic yes Queer yes lesbian no. That's my opinion, you have yours. And I never said there's a man out there for you lmao

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Anonymous OP 3w

Like why are you talking about men lmao they literally have zero to do with this conversation. If someone said I'm not a lesbian because I was dating people who aren't women, I would agree. Commentary based on things you actually do is different than commentary based on an imagined hypothetical lol says "you're not a lesbian because there's a man out there for you" is imagined, "you're not a lesbian because you date people who aren't women" is observational

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Anonymous #1 3w

I think you as a cis person shouldn’t have an input on matters concerning nonbinary people

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Anonymous #1 3w

You’d have a much better time if you’d just

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Anonymous OP 3w

I'm not really concerned about matters concerning nonbinary people, I'm concerned with matters pertaining to lesbians, and in my view, people who date people that aren't women aren't lesbians.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I'm having a fine time talking

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Anonymous OP 3w

Well I'm in the group so now what

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Anonymous #2 3w

No :)

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Anonymous #1 3w

Basic fact is that you’re wrong. I can see why you don’t actually have lesbian friends.

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Anonymous #2 3w

That's an assumption that doesn't even make sense given that I already said I'm in lesbian and sapphic spaces all the time lol but okay

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Anonymous #1 3w

Your imagination doesn’t count.

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Anonymous #2 3w

Whatever man

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