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Gonna be real, you can call out misogyny in queer spaces without having weird transphobic undertones to your post! Gender essentialism is bad and hurts ALL trans people, even when it’s misandry!
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Anonymous 5w

“misandry” is kind of a counterproductive term imo, because in attempting to coin a male equivalent for “misogyny”, it suggests that men are structurally oppressed on the basis of gender, which is inaccurate that being said, the “speak when spoken to” shit is weird as hell? personally I received more than enough of that messaging growing up as an abused child with girlhood being projected on them…

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Anonymous 5w

Jfc OOP blocked me, I don’t remember which number I am but I’m the one who assumed they were a feminist and then they corrected me in saying they’re not a feminist and actually believe in matriarchies over equality

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Anonymous 5w

agree, this post is reallt transphobic and minimalizes trans masc issues

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Anonymous 5w

what was the original post?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

in fact misandry is literally used and furthered by MRAs (men’s rights activists) to claim that it is a form of societal oppression equivalent to misogyny. atp it’s lowkey a 🚩. when discussing gendered oppression that effects people who are not women, i find it most accurate to just use the term patriarchy tbh bc it is inclusive both of the oppression of women and how certain standards can also harm men.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

jfc they blocked me too but that's insane

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

They so firmly hate and belittle men and not as a joke. They are such a fucking gender essentialist and it seems like they just want someone to hate and belittle. It’s absolutely fair to shit on men in a joking way, but what they want is just hate

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

yeah, I frankly don’t believe there’s any context in which it’s a useful term, MRAs are my first association when I hear it too. when referring to the specific othering & marginalization experienced by trans men & other transmascs—and/or interpersonal biases against the same—the word “anti-transmasculinity” is useful & reasonably well-established

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

Sorry gang I couldn’t remember a better word for it💔 Thank you for putting into words what I was thinking abt the “speak when spoken to” bit. Idk as someone who’s nonbinary (not necessarily a trans man per se) I’ve always felt like everyone who is transgender has something to add to the misogyny discussion since every trans person has been affected by misogyny at one time or another in their life

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 5w

yep, for sure. anti-transmasculinity is a great term to speak specifically to/about to oppression of trans men and transmascs. i find that patriarchy is a useful umbrella to describe the overall governing structure of gendered oppression, including both (trans)misogyny and anti-transmasculinity, but also acknowledging the gendered standards that effect cis men, particularly marginalized cis men.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Idk who Oop is but I’m kind of assuming it’s the one who blocked me for pointing out that they were wrong about what intersectionality is

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