Anonymous #1 1d

You should learn what systemic oppression is before saying ignorant shit like this lmfao. Hate to break it to you but the majority of people who can think for themselves are transphobic, especially where I live. Literally most transphobic people I’ve met are cis, even in the lgbtq+ community. Please get woke.

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Anonymous #2 1d

Okay, what do you want me to do with that information exactly? I’m not saying that post is wrong, I’m just expressing something that I feel is relevant to this conversation

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Anonymous OP 1d

This post isn’t relevant to the conversation of the original post, is what I’m saying. I’m not even disagreeing with you, I just thought you might like to know that there’s additional context to the post you’re responding to.

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Anonymous #2 1d

??? How am I supposed to know this post is even part of a conversation?? It’s not quoting anything or making any specific reference to something else. This is a public forum

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Anonymous OP 1d

When you repost a post, you are engaging with the original post. And the conversation of that original post.

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Anonymous #2 1d

What do you want me to do bro I said what I said

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Anonymous OP 1d

I didn’t ask you to do anything. I don’t particularly want you to do anything. I just thought you might want to be aware

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Anonymous #2 1d

Ok thanks

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Anonymous OP 1d

“The majority are transphobic” is true, but “cis people suck, let’s generally avoid them” doesn’t follow from that. That’s what oop and 1 are both saying. Approach everyone with an open mind, figure out whether they’re a shitty person, and then go from there. “Woke” means recognizing oppression, not assuming things about people you don’t know.

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Anonymous #3 1d

I mean i guess bro ?? But I never said cis people suck, way to strawman my argument

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Anonymous OP 1d

would you mind saying what your argument is then? It kinda sounded like you were disagreeing with oop

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Anonymous #3 1d

Cis people are not inherently evil, and them being cis is not a negative quality, however they tend to be transphobic and a huge fraction of them are transphobic and participate in the systemic oppression of trans people. Trans people therefore have the right to not be comfortable with just about any cis person (at least until they know that they’re an ally)

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Anonymous OP 1d

I think we’re all in agreement then, I wasn’t saying you should instantly be comfortable with everyone, just to try take that time to figure out if they’re an ally when possible. Lots of people do make sweeping generalizations like “cis people suck” which just drives the wedge further

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Anonymous #3 1d

👍👍

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Anonymous OP 22h

They hate you for this post but ur right Trans people have every right to be a bit on guard around cis people at first bc the people oppressed us ARE CIS PEOPLE. People taking offense to this are just fragile cis people who don’t want to come to terms with the fact they might be part of an oppressive class

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Anonymous #4 22h

1. Thank you 2. I think you made a bit of a typo there and for a moment I thought you were saying cis people are oppressed 😭 3. Yes, oppressive class, well said

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Anonymous #4 20h

100% this. And apply this framework to racism in the community too!!! Bigotry is intersectional, and our understanding of it and method of combating it MUST be intersectional too!

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Anonymous #1 20h

I think it’s ok to be weary of people i think it’s an important part of self preservation and awareness. I’m weary of any flame because I’ve been burned and I’ve seen the destruction a careless flame can cause. That doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy a fire tho. I assume people where I live will be homophobic and then I am glad to be proven wrong by the few.

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Anonymous #2 20h

💯💯

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Anonymous OP 20h

See i think the thing is oppression is often very easy to identify the issue is that no one wants to admit when they are the oppressor or when they fit in with the oppressor. It’s easy to acknowledge the issue but it’s hard to admit when you’re part of the people who makes it an issue your first reaction is defend your innocence

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Anonymous #5 20h

Like when I was a sophomore, we read how to be an anti-racist one big Takeaway from that was when you call someone racist they immediately get defensive not because you think they are racist but because they feel like you don’t like them. Instead of talking the opportunity to self reflect see what you said or did and how it could be taken in a racist way, they just feel like you think they’re dumb or a bad person and all that.

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Anonymous #5 20h

So my message to cis people as a cis person when someone calls out cis people or you personally don’t defend yourself, take the time to see it from their perspective, take the time to try to be better reflect on what you said or did and why it was seen that way.

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Anonymous #2 18h

Wouldn’t have it any other way

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Anonymous OP 18h

Ur good lol And yeah you mention to a group of cis people that SOME of them might have unaddressed transphobia and they all loose their fucking minds. Watch how fast so called allies get defensive. Especially if it’s a trans woman saying that a cis person has unaddressed transphobia

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