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This is such a niche conversation but we need to eventually address the intense harm straight men that fetishize but never want a serious relationship with trans women have on the community
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Anonymous 1d

I feel like we need to have a conversation just about how wanting a sexual relationship but not a serious relationship with someone because of a quality (being trans, body size, race, ethnicity, etc) is fetishization

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Anonymous 1d

We should have more conversations around it, but idk if it’s niche no? I’m not trans but I’ve seen many discussions around chasers come up (for ppl depending on whether they’re trans, non-white, etc)

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Anonymous 1d

we keep having conversations as if straight men are A. going to hear it, B. care enough to listen if they did, or C. going to change their behavior whatsoever. it’s tiring. atp i’m just going to be a malicious and terrible woman to right the scales, futile as it all is.

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Anonymous 1d

It’s a difficult topic because it covers many layers of identity, sexuality, toxic masculinity, and social expectations. Porn is definitely a big contender in this too. I think a cishet man may find a trans women attractive visually, but feel confused when it comes to sex since their genitalia match (if we’re discussing amab to feminine transition without bottom surgery). It conflicts with their societal norm of find a wife, have children, retire mindset. (1/?)

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Anonymous 1d

The chaser conversation is deep and multifaceted

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

So, many cishet men may explore a sexual or short term romantic connection with a trans woman, but long term relationships are out of their norm. The social expectation would be broken if they did. Toxic masculinity tells them that having sex with a person who has a penis is gay, which is taboo in their world. Thus enters trans woman fetish, which is heightened due to it usually kept a secret to maintain their status among other cishet men. (2/?)

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Porn is also not helpful in this world since it allows cishet men to explore their attraction to trans women without any expectations or publicly exposing their feelings. So, when real life connections do occur they’ll want to keep that experience of short term secret relationships, which becomes a fetish. The worst part is that we’ll probably not see this cycle being broken anytime soon bc we live in a patriarchal society that puts straight white men with large families at the top. (3/3)

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1d

Yeah we can talk about the cycle over and over but if queer ppl keep having a conversation ab cishet men, we'll never reach our actual audience. There's nothing queer people and trans women can really do since it's a cishet mens issue. On top of it all it's also completely optional to be in a serious relationship with anyone, we can't really "encourage" cishet men to date anyone or change their sexual interests since that's a personal choice. We can ask for tolerance and respect that's it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Ppl need to be more honest when they only want a casual sexual relationship. Consensual short term sexual relationships can be healthy as long as both parties are consenting. BUT we see cishet men often leading trans women on, keeping them a secret, and ultimately breaking things off unexpectedly when things get “too serious.” Ppl end up being used and fetishized bc the other party is not honest ab their intentions which is honestly manipulative and gross :(

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

Oh I have had this same thing happen on the basis of my disability, my race, and my body type, so I just feel like it is a much broader issue

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Yes! It can apply to so much I just kept with just trans women cause that’s the original topic. I’m agreeing with you

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1d

I think my intention was more that maybe teams women just don’t associate with those kind of men to begin with???

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Wait what?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Trans* women

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1d

I’ve just seen the other side of it bc my ex fetishized trans women and it just was super disturbing how little he cared about them and just wanted to use them as a prop and I just hope trans women know they don’t have to settle with that kind of treatment and they deserve much better

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

Right so I think you said trans women need to just “avoid” people like this which sounds a little odd bc most of the time trans women don’t realize until later they’re being fetishized after being manipulated. I understand we need to avoid ppl like this but you can’t blame trans women for being fetishized

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