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Nah, make a spinoff called Yaoi on Ice and make the main characters lesbians
Fuck it, bring back Yuri on Ice!
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Anonymous 1w

My this logic one of them needs to be named yaoi

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Anonymous 6d

Can it pls not have a relationship with a coach tho bc as someone who grew up in a million coach/coachee dynamics that skeeves me out THAT DYNAMIC IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ROMANTIC

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Anonymous 1w

Please 😩

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Anonymous 6d

please please please… I’d give a lung

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Anonymous 6d

this is how i discover yuri on ice is about men??

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Naturally

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

and then have a 14 year old russian rival also names yaoi

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

To be fair they didn’t have a super coach dynamic idk they had some other stuff going on

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

Idk I just very firmly think if someone has that big of an impact on your career you should not also be involved with them

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

Ofc ofc yeah outside of fantasy it’s bad and it shouldn’t be romanticized

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 6d

I honestly think even fantasy normalizes it beyond what is healthy or acceptable

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

So there’s this cool thing called fiction

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6d

Which plays on — positively or negatively — existing norms and practices to reinforce or degrade them. Stories are powerful; pretending otherwise is irresponsible.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

You can consume media without having it influence your view on real life relationships idk

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6d

Ehhh no. That’s not what the research says.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

What research can you send links to anything because I’d love to read your sources

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6d

Well, for example: https://editingresearch.byu.edu/2022/11/14/when-fiction-normalizes-unhealthy-romance/ I’m not suggesting that the romance in Yuri on Ice is abusive but there is a clear power imbalance and one that I find deeply troubling. The normalization of *that* and of romances between people with clear power imbalances in general is what I find objectionable.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 6d

Also, essentially “the stories we tell ourselves shape the things we accept or reject.” https://www.criminaljusticealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/azae030.pdf https://www.criminaljusticealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/azae030.pdf

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

This first article’s conclusions- in the actual research article, not the related piece you linked- are that studies of abuse should be included in media literacy programs, thus supporting the idea that you can read whatever if you can think critically about it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

Okay so I looked at the first article and I wanna point out that it was posted by Brigham Young University. I won’t entirely discredit them because they’re Mormon but like. There’s gonna be some bias there. The second link you provided did not open for me, got a 404. Here’s some research about how the brain processes fiction and reality differently- 2008_abraham_jocn_realityvsfiction.pdf - Google Drive

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

If it’s a spin off it would have the same plot tbh. Nothing is wrong with those relationships as in the show they are both consenting adults and the show was more about the skating than the romance as yuri wanted to be the best ice skater after viktor became his coach. It was admiration at first but as they grew closer seeing their vulnerability it turned to love. Tbh how most people fall in love regardless of the dynamics.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 6d

LITERALLY

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

The idea should, however, not be taken to mean the process where stigmatized or devi- ant individuals, groups or behaviours become included in as many features of ‘normal’ life as possible (Parker et al. 1998). Rather, these stories should be seen as nodal points in discourse (Laclau and Mouffe 1985) or as tools in symbolic boundary work (Lamont and Molnár 2002) that aid young street-oriented men in reconceptualizing violence as something manageable in their lives. -the second article

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 6d

In conclusion: I’d like better sources, because I don’t think they’re saying what you think they’re saying.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 6d

A better quote from the article: “Narrative normalization should be regarded as the process where marginalized groups, like street-oriented young men, attempt to make the extraordinary seem ordinary and manageable. As such, narrative normalization does not denote genuine normalization but rather the narrative tactics used to alleviate the effects of violence.”

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