Anonymous #2 17w

not for the Palestinians. maybe for us for a little but we still wouldn't be able to afford to fucking live.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

“not for the palestinians” we have our own issues to fix over here. you cant fix foreign issues until you fix domestic issues.

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Anonymous #3 17w

we literally caused the destabilization in the region. and kamala planned to pledge arms to israel.... like what?

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Anonymous ellie 17w

Trump has been significantly worse for Palestine than Kamala would’ve ever been. She is very obviously the lesser of two evils. That does not excuse her actions/views, but I can understand where they (the commenter) are coming from.

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Anonymous #4 17w

nobody is saying trump is good. but harris is no ally to us either

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Anonymous ellie 17w

people in the US wouldn’t be afraid of losing their rights under kamala.

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Anonymous #3 17w

queer people in palestine would just continue to get bombed to shit instead.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

Ofc no one is saying Trump is good, Im saying he is dramatically worse than Kamala in terms of US involvement in Palestine.

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Anonymous #4 17w

debatable. The Biden admin was as strongly tied to israel if not stronger, and Harris was just going to continue that trend.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

see your problem is placing more importance on foreign problems. we have our own to deal with in the states. what’s happening in palestine is unfortunate but now WE’RE under the threat of fascism.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

No way you’re trying to suggest Trump isn’t worse than the Biden administration

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Anonymous ellie 17w

“debatable” is crazy. Being tied to Israel is shitty but you know whats worse? directly cutting off aid to Palestine, suggesting the US should take over Gaza and displace their people

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Anonymous #3 17w

okay 1. it's a western issue as we helped fuck over palestine. 2. we're always teetering on the edge of fascism (it's a feature of our system, not a bug) 3. it's a literal fucking genocide i think we should maybe take a little time to stand against that shit...

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Anonymous ellie 17w

I know it’s a genocide and guess what trump is tryna kick start his own with all these mass deportations and ice raids but palestine is the only thing that matters to you right? bffr

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Anonymous #4 17w

biden gave tens of billions of dollars to israel and harris was going to continue that. She firmly stood with israel and told protesters on the matter to "shut up". Trump is awful, but he's been slowly distancing from Netanyahu if you've been paying attention to current events...

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Anonymous #3 17w

okay Biden deported even more people but we don't talk about that shit either. that was continued from Obama. Harris would have continued that too... like y'all just because they don't openly yap about it doesn't mean they aren't committing the same atrocities

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Anonymous #3 17w

if ya'll actually did your research and cared about these issues you would be against all of these fuckhead candidates

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Anonymous ellie 17w

they deported more people but they weren’t engaging in racist rhetoric against them. trump is deporting people just for being brown.

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Anonymous #3 17w

you think biden wasn't doing the same thing just because he wasn't openly yapping about it?

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Anonymous ellie 17w

I didn’t love kamala but none of the other candidates had a standing chance. it was the logical option

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Anonymous #3 17w

yeah that doesn't mean u have to be ride or die for her. she may have been the slightly less worse option but she was still awful. why r we out here still defending her shit?

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Anonymous ellie 17w

I think biden was being smart & not fueling racism

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Anonymous ellie 17w

I am against all of them, doesnt mean i cant compare them chief, we unfortunately had to vote for /someone/ and I sure as hell didnt vote for trump

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Anonymous ellie 17w

bc people like you fucking annoy me

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Anonymous #3 17w

no he was just engaging in it behind the scene by mass deportation

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yes slightly. because she still ultimately supports capitalism and the racist ass anti poor institutions this country is built on.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

Trump does this ten fold!!! you CANNOT make a post about supporting queer people and then go and say Kamala is slightly less worse than Trump, get real.

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Anonymous #4 17w

I FUCKING HATE TRUMP TOO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HIM RN

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Anonymous #4 17w

they are both evil as fuck

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Anonymous ellie 17w

We are though, you just had an entire debate about comparing Trump and Kamala. Don’t get upset with me just because I’m comparing two sides and discussing both of them.

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Anonymous #4 17w

there's more than two sides. y'all get sucked into this two sides bullshit. both sides are fucking horrible.... and yet y'all r still out here defending these people. it's gross

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Anonymous #4 17w

like y'all r really out here supporting a genocider because she would've made your life slightly more comfortable.

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Anonymous #4 17w

our rights are always under threat. they always will be under this system. it's a feature of american democracy. not a bug. they will keep us complacent by feeding us scraps and nothing more

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Anonymous #4 17w

but no kiss up to your capitalistic overlords because one wore a rainbow shirt and spoke pretty words 🙄

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Anonymous ellie 17w

I’d also like to clarify discussing the leadership of our country is not discounting the horrors in Palestine. Choosing one candidate over the other has dramatically impacted how we have progressed (regressed really) as a country serving as a former source of aid for Palestine. Both candidates are bad, but dont shit on one that is 1. a person of color 2. has a significantly better track record of their rhetoric and actions towards queer people as if Trump has not shown support for Israel as well

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Anonymous #4 17w

i will shit on both of them because they are both evil.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

Sure, if we are comparing two sides, ill support one over the other hypothetically. Democracy is flawed. You are also not discussing what Trump has done to fuck over Israel which is frustrating.

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Anonymous #4 17w

because this was about HARRIS. Trump is also dogshit. i'm not debating that. I'm also not talking about him rn because y'all aren't defending him

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Anonymous ellie 17w

Discussing is not the same as defending dude. Capitalism sucks, democracy is flawed, but until we overthrow the currency conditions we are stuck with this bullshit and have to make do.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

This was about BOTH of them. COMPARING means BOTH sides bro. I know what Kamala has done, explain to me how it compares to Trump’s actions.

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Anonymous #4 17w

okay so that means we should be out here calling a genocider a "real leader" and making support posts for her? 😭

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Anonymous ellie 17w

when did I ever say that…

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Anonymous #4 17w

that's what the quoted post was doing...

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Anonymous ellie 17w

I never said nor implied we should call her a real leader or make support posts. All I am saying is that she would’ve been a better leader than Trump.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

I’m not defending the post dude can you not get it through your brain that I am comparing two sides.

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Anonymous #4 17w

okay but we can do that while acknowledging her faults right? we can do that without jumping to defend her every time someone brings up valid criticism about her policies

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Anonymous #4 17w

THEN WHY R U IN MY COMMENTS SECTION BRINGING UP TRUMP IN COMPARISON

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Anonymous ellie 17w

my frustration is that your are not acknowledging the other side (Trump) which is involved in this conversation as much as you are denying it.

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Anonymous #4 17w

we don't have to play what aboutism every time. we can just acknowledge they both blow and move on

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Anonymous ellie 17w

Because I am allowed to discuss a related topic?

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Anonymous #4 17w

because trump blows too. 😭 im not defending or saying ppl should have voted for him. this was aimed towards the harris stans who continue to shill her post election

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Anonymous #4 17w

like she might have been the better option during the election. the election is over and done with.

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Anonymous ellie 17w

Calling a comparison of information from both sides a what aboutism is childish. I want to discuss both sides, you are only bringing up the bads for one.

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Anonymous #4 17w

because it's irrelevant to the point i'm raising. which is that we shouldn't stan politicians who are engaged in evil actions

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Anonymous #4 17w

if someone was out here defending trump still i would be in the comments doing the same thing for him... but there isnt

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