Anonymous #2 5w

Plus in certain places men can’t report something as rape unless they were the ones penetrating or being forced to penetrate

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Anonymous #4 5w

Male homosexuality is illegal in more countries than female homosexuality.

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Anonymous #4 5w

Being penetrated*

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Anonymous #2 5w

And yet, these issues aren’t really examples of ‘misandry’. They’re consequences of the patriarchy. The first is a result of religious imperialism. And I swear circumcision is talked about ten times as often as FGM. And police brutality against black men is an issue with systemic racism.

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Anonymous #2 4w

these aren't projected onto men by a matriarchal society so these aren't misandrist at all. they're real issues caused by men FOR men.

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Anonymous #2 4w

The police abuse black men because they’re black not because they’re men, and ngl the rest of that list kinda just sounds like filler

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Anonymous #7 4w

yeah but there’s def an intersectionality of identities there bc black men specifically are demonized in a unique way

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Anonymous #7 4w

Yes, but men are most often the victims of the racist targeting by police. Implicit and conscious bias sees Black men as a threat. Definitely still cognizant that systemic racism by police also affects women though.

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Anonymous #2 4w

They don’t seem to have any problem harassing black women either, I don’t think them being men makes nearly as much of a difference

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Anonymous #7 4w

well like if you look at the raw numbers it does—i don’t think anyone is saying black women don’t experience police brutality but black men have been particularly demonized and persecuted by that system i feel like that’s undeniable

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Anonymous #9 4w

misandry is described as a systemic issue, misandry is not real, but that doesn’t mean people can be misandrist per say.. all it does it hurt feelings. It’s no different than regular bullying

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Anonymous OP 4w

*people can’t be

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Anonymous OP 4w

Who describes it as a systemic issue? I’ve always been under the impression it’s just a term for a specific kind of hate in general, not that it has to be systemic. I thought that’s why there were both the terms “racism” and “systemic racism” as different things.

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Anonymous #9 4w

I meant “*when misandry is described as a systemic issue…doesn’t mean ppl can’t be misandrist”

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Anonymous #9 4w

It’s the same way racism against white people isn’t real. Systemically it doesn’t and cannot happen due to power imbalance.. BUT someone can be ( interpersonally ) racist to a white person. The non-white people just don’t have the societal standing for the comments to affect the white persom beyond hurt feelings.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Ok you’re describing systemic racism though when you say “racism against white people”. You’re right that systemic issues aren’t present but like it’s still racism

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Anonymous #9 4w

Yet acknowledging it and giving it our time is fucking useless bc it’ll go nowhere. There isn’t some movement that needs to be started to save white people from racist remarks. Same thing as men. Most “misandry” is online. Just turn your phone off

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Anonymous OP 4w

See I fully agree with you there, I just don’t see why you can’t acknowledge that it’s (racism/systemic racism) and (not lack of any hate/racism). If a Latino person goes to a majority Asian country and says an Asian slur, is it not racist because the system is majority Asian?

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Anonymous #9 4w

I get what you’re saying and I agree too,with racism it gets complicated a bit bc.. well there’s a lot of races but there’s only two dominant sexes in this case, which break off into cis men versus women and trans women and afabs, which I’ll just call women. It’s a lot more narrow. And there isn’t a place on the earth where men don’t have more power over women

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Anonymous OP 4w

Right but you realize it’s the same concept right? If you can’t be misandrist because men have power, you are pushing the concept that those in power cannot be hated. This can be applied to every identity, not JUST sex. And as long as we are here, there HAVE been matriarchal societies in the past and currently, albeit mostly smaller groups.

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