
Btw if you see boobs or butts out at Pride and your first instinct is to assume it’s sexual, you have some serious internal deconstructing to do. There’s nothing inherently sexual about the human body. Society sexualizes nude bodies, especially LGBTQ+ bodies and female bodies. If you think Pride isn’t kid friendly because they might see someone half-naked, then don’t ever take them to a pool or let them change in the PE locker room.
to the ppl saying “kids are around” seeing boobs isn’t inherently sexual. mothers have boobs, i’d say most kids understand that. now if someone was squeezing and slobbering on them, THATS an issue, but idk, in europe there’s nude beaches everywhere, no one bats an eye. the US is incredibly prude despite what americans may try to convince you
I think we can have both. My local pride has adults only areas, and people generally don’t show up wearing their puppy masks until after the families have gone home. The small town pride 30 minutes away is explicitly for families. I do think it’s reasonable to not want your child to be exposed to nudity, and I think we should be inclusive of gay couples who have kids. That’s a right we didn’t always have. It’s beautiful and deserves to be celebrated at pride. Have adult-only hours! It’s easy!
“pride isn’t a kid event so parents choose to bring their children and it’s on them if they see something inappropriate” is a wild ass take. there are lgbt people with families and children and they are allowed to be at this event just as much as everyone else. they also have a right to not be flashed by adults in public. fucking ass backwards chronically online people who think flashing children is okay 🤡
There are many child friendly pride events. Intentionally bringing your children to a non child friendly pride event is your problem, not everyone else’s. Also, I don’t remember who said it but no one’s going there completely naked. I’ve also never heard of people going there with their genitals out. So, that leaves me to think you’re really talking about boobs when you call it flashing. Boobs are not inherently sexual, children are not harmed by seeing them
You are. You keep using right wing talking points, with a right wing syntax, and using the terms “liberal” and “democrat” as if they mean the same thing as “leftist.” If you aren’t right wing, you sure act exactly like you would if you were. The “three” thing from inglorious basterds? That’s you.
delusional people fr. also them just assuming what you actually mean or say based off of the vocabulary you use. they just want to argue and feel right about themselves. i have never seen so many lgbt people in one spot who are so insistent on excluding other lgbt people/families. it’s fucking sad that our community has come to this
you need to get off the internet if you genuinely think that vocabulary is restricted to a political ideology. not everyone talks in a way that fits your idea of how someone believes politically. if you talked to anyone in real life, you’d see that easily. different people talk in different ways and automatically assigning a “side” to someone based solely off of how they talk shows how ignorant you are.
it’s actually brain dead how much mental gymnastics they’re using to justify this. there are lgbt teens, lgbt children, lgbt families, and they all have a right to go to pride and be comfortable. other lgbt folk who want pride to be more accessible to families does not mean they’re republican/right wing. pride does not belong to only one segment of the community, it is a celebration of the broad lgbt community, and that includes families.
I said “syntax,” not vocabulary. That’s an important distinction because syntax also includes grammar, framing, and voice, in this context. Your speech patterns (or dialect) are largely based on the speech patterns of those around you and the media you consume. This is very observable in real life, if anything it’s harder tell on the internet because it’s easier to fake a given dialect.
I feel like this conversation was already had but theres a difference between family friendly pride events (which is the parade and with all the tents outside, maybe there might be a tent that has stuff to educate ppl about safe sex with free condoms and maybe education about prep but they won’t give that to a child ofc) and the adult/21+ pride events which are at a different location/time and pretty hard to accidentally walk into, maybe your area is different but i don’t think anyone is-
Wdym? No one here is saying children should be brought to these adult events where they could potentially be exposed to inappropriate things, ive only seen people saying theres a difference between the family friendly events and the ones made for adults/adult activities, like you wouldn’t bring a baby to a bar crawl
You made the assumption that every pride event is for all ages/crowds which is not at all the reality of these events and why its so important to have a good event planning team so these misunderstandings dont happen, ive never seen someone’s dih out at the events ive attended so again, may be your area having an issue, but its weird to project that onto the whole community & pride events
Yeah I gotta agree, I hate that most of these open discussions just turn to bad faith shit slinging, like im sure theres an example or two of a mishandling or an individual doing something inappropriate but I hate how that is somehow used to ignore the reality of how these events are actually run and how the community actually functions, it seems like this guy thinks the community is somehow a hive mind with himself as an exception
in what way would a child be harmed by seeing breasts? "LITERAL NUDITY" being the crux of your argument is so dumb. i went to events where there were nude adults in nonsexual contexts from the age of 8 or so and up. it's not actually damaging to kids to see a naked body if they’re not being put into dangerous or uncomfortable situations about it.
Again, maybe im just in the dark about people being weird, but the events open to the pubic (like the actual parade and tents and such) do not have people exposing themselves any more than what a swimsuit would cover, no one has their bits hanging out in my experience. I’ve of course heard different things about some 21+ events, but again, you won’t just stumble into that while walking down the street.
Once again treating us as monolith, whether people feel safe around cops given how the law enforcement used to be used to harm & violate members of our community during bar raids is a different conversation, if you’re not ready for nuance and reality im not sure theres a point in continuing this
Most pride events I’ve been to have been local events that essentially boil down to gay flavored street fairs. These pride events where people show up in kink gear or are topless are ones in MAJOR cities. Though theres something to be said about certain events potentially creating safe places or times for kids, don’t act like every pride event has a topless lesbian prowling around the corner waiting to flash a child. Most of them are local and totally SFW from my experience