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And Alex Pretti literally just recorded ICE agents profiling and abusing immigrants in broad daylight and they killed him for it Fuckin’ twats
797 upvotes, 26 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in LGBTQIA+. "And Alex Pretti literally just recorded ICE agents profiling and abusing immigrants in broad daylight and they killed him for it

Fuckin’ twats"
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Anonymous 5d

‘They’, as in the shooter, was a right wing extremist btw. ‘They’ didn’t kill him. He was killed by one of his own for perpetuating the same rhetoric that led him to get shot.

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Anonymous 4d

Pretti and Kirk are not the same. Kirk was a N*zi and an all around bad person.

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Anonymous 5d

grrrrr different than me so deserves death grrrr

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Anonymous 5d

This isn’t an either or statement, though. You can miss both in different ways. Or in the same. Charlie Kirk was PEACEFULLY spreading his believes. Practicing his first amendment rights. And was killed for it. Meanwhile Alex Pretti was recording ICE agents doing… not good things to immigrants, which is practicing his first amendment rights as well. You know what I miss most though. When peace wasn’t met with violence. When protecting people didn’t result in putting yourself in danger.

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Anonymous 5d

Both are bad

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 5d

Hate speech is not the same thing as free speech.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 5d

There was no “then.” Protesting (peacefully) has always been suffocated especially as it pertains to Black Americans and other minorities. To say, I wish we could go back to a time…doesn’t exist in the US. How many BLM protests were labeled as “violent” and now currently how many anti-ice protestors or everyday people are labeled as “agitators” and “domestic terrorists.” People have always been killed for protesting or just being…you are just unaware and not the target.

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Anonymous 5d

Umm I feel like they were trying to impersonate him but I could be wrong 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5d

LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER NOISE

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5d

This is such a great observation and also highlights a very important detail that most people aren't seeing in our current culture

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5d

(It's both sides but nobody wants to admit that one being unfathomably worse than the other doesn't make the better one great by any means bc i hear fearful hate from both sides and that's the root: fear.)

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 5d

None of this would've have happened if not for the collective action of every being in existence. This was all preventable.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

it's a terrible observation. people meming kirks death aren't happy about the deaths of people simply "different" than them. that's a moronic take. he was a national public figure with a massive enterprise dedicated to attacking people and their rights (human, constitutional and otherwise) who got killed by the very culture of gun violence and hate he so fervently helped manufacture. nobody is mad at him for being "different" they're mad at him for being a villainous ghoul

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 4d

hate speech is not peaceful. ever heard of "fighting words"? that's not just a thing people say - it's a legal standard for what speech can reasonably get one's ass beat. that pennywise wannabe kirk spread nothing but violent, hateful rhetoric. can't stand people trying to sanitize the image of a ghoulish clown like him

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 4d

fuck off 😭 stupidest shit i’ve read this week

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 4d

Did you miss the part where I said unfathomable evil doesn't make lesser evil great? I'm not denying the severity of his evil nor have I ever. Are you saying that one can deserve the loss of their life? That the right to life is conditional? Because that implies that any right (which is supposed to be infallible) can be revoked without due process. Do you not see the contradicting logical and ethical issue here?

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 4d

If you're going to respond at least read what I said and reply in good faith rather than disingenuously reframing my argument entirely.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 4d

Charlie Kirk would not have become evil if society at large hadn't failed ethically. Not that he didn't become deplorable. Not that there isn't valid reason to be outraged by him. Not that there isn't honesty in lack of grief. Just that this was the culmination of years and years of cultural failure.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 4d

Ah yes just downvote me! That means you're right and everything I said is immediately refuted despite being met with no counter argument or rebuttal!! Good job guys!! I guess murder is easier than nuance!!

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

Alex Pretti and Charlie Kirk were both killed by right wing extremists. Gtfoh with that ‘both sides’ bullshit.

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

lol stay mad

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4d

Who caused them to become extremists?

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Anonymous replying to -> #11 4d

That would be the violent extremist rhetoric of people like Trump and Kirk lmao. I don’t know how you think you’re going to pin this on the left, but it isn’t going to work. Kirk was assassinated by a man who thought he wasn’t extreme enough, and the hilarious irony is that he was shot at a school after years of condoning school shootings and gun violence. It’s both sad and disgusting how ignorant you are of these things.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4d

What makes you think I am unware of the facts? If that violent rhetoric is solely to blame rather than being a symptom of a larger issue, then how is it that the existence of that rhetoric alone hasn’t also turned you or I into violent right wing extremists? Something is missing here.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4d

If you think my intention is to pin blame on one group alone, you are gravely misunderstanding my position.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 4d

isnt it just highlighting the hypocrisy?

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