Anonymous #2 2d

The difference is you were treated as a girl by society — im definitely aware of the way the term can be used negatively against us but its still relevant socially to understand why we as a community even exist in the first place. If we werent socialized as a certain gender, it probably wouldnt be such a big deal were trans lol

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Anonymous #3 2d

Never generalized— but its relevant to understand that society will treat you as the gender it assigns you. I never felt like a woman yet was still treated like one, but i was treated as a woman who did not conform to my assigned gender, which is a different experience from a cis woman for sure. Im saying that our unique experiences as trans people complicate that gender treatment and the way society treats us and socializes us is unique to us. Im definitely not trying to generalize def.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Definitely— generalizing any group is unhelpful i agree. I just find alot of trans people are very defensive about the topic due to terfs co opting it as a way to essentially denigrate trans woman, which i totally get

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Anonymous OP 2d

I totally get why trans ppl are defensive, not how terfs utilize the language (realized i typed that in a way that made it seem like i was agreeing with terfs 😬)

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Anonymous OP 2d

i'm not treated as a girl by society though. i was treated as a queer hippie as a young child and by 13 onwards i passed to everyone as a man. i know it's important for some that they had a girlhood, but some of us also didn't. it doesn't take away from transness, it's just a different experience

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Anonymous #2 2d

Im not really necessarily talking about “girlhood” per say. I don’t feel like i had one either. My point is how we are raised is unique to how we are assigned at birth. As a young child, i was told to put up with abuse from boys because “boys are mean to girls they like”. Or for example, when a middle school boy slapped my ass when i was 10, i was told “boys will be boys “ and i needed to wear “a longer skirt as to not tempt them”. Im not saying these are girlhood experiences,

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Anonymous #2 2d

These are the experiences of someone who was told they were a girl, which made it mighty difficult for me to grapple with my gender identity. Im not trying to tell you how you are or were or what you experienced, i promise. Its just how we all grow up is dictated by society which is why so many of us come to terms with our queerness so late: these things have been drilled into us.

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Anonymous #2 2d

And definitely these things are not a “one size fits all”. We all have unique experiences.

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Anonymous OP 1d

you never did, but most people’s gripes and hostility towards the topic comes from generalizations. just providing nuance/context

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Anonymous OP 1d

that’s fair, although I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone be defensive when someone’s talking about their own socialization. I’ve only seen people get upset when someone says “WE were socialized in X way.” socialization is a complex topic and speaking with authority on another’s experience does deserve some hostility imo

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Anonymous #1 1d

Fair enough, i can imagine its frustrating to have people tell you what youre experience was, thanks :)

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