Anonymous #2 5d

They’d tell you go back to your country

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Anonymous #2 5d

this actually did happen. and to a firefighter, no less

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Anonymous #6 5d

Yea i heard 🫩🙏

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Anonymous #3 5d

They gon deport u quick

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Anonymous #9 5d

Okay but like a bunch of democrats are moderates and Israel bootlickers

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Anonymous #1 5d

(yeah those suck, it just hurts hearing ig)

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Anonymous #9 5d

Lmao yeah it does a little bit sometimes it’s okay to be racist against white people online because it matters so little

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Anonymous #1 5d

Assuming you means matters little politically, doesn't racism have non-institutional harm too? Don't we dislike racism also because it's hurtful?

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Anonymous #9 5d

white person not being ignorant and self center challenge: level impossible

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Anonymous #11 5d

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣truth nuke

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Anonymous #11 5d

That’s what I’m sayin and I’m white

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Anonymous #11 5d

I'm happy for you to educate me. What's wrong with saying bigotry is also bad because it's offensive? We're all friends here

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Anonymous #9 5d

white people can’t experience bigotry on the basis that they’re white. end of discussion. educate yourself unless you’re gonna reimburse me for my time, it’s black history month 😒💅🏾

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Anonymous #11 5d

Sure! Let's not even call it bigotry then. If someone says something hurtful about black people, is one reason it's bad that it hurts the person who hears it?

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Anonymous #9 5d

i’m not continuing this conversation because you can’t seem to see beyond your own perspective. if you want to truly understand, get over yourself and seek out black, brown, and indigenous educators about this subject. having bad faith arguments on fucking yikyak will not get you very far.

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Anonymous #11 5d

Actually, I don't see how someone asking to listen to what you have to say is dogmatic or bad faith at all. The truth is, I posed the question "is one reason racism bad because it's offensive," and you danced around it because generalizing ANY race, sex, gender, sexuality or other trait someone didn't choose is harmful, and you cannot come to terms with that. Everyone reading, I know you'll downvote, but I hope you have a wonderful day and an open mind. I mean that.

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Anonymous #9 5d

Hey the majority of LGBTQ people are not white?? Where did you get that statistic???

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Anonymous #12 5d

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/lgbt-adults-us-press-release/ from 2019, may have skewed since then

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Anonymous #9 4d

Those statistics are essential just the racial make up of America. Ya the majority of queer people *in the United States* are white but that’s because the majority of people in the United States are white. Saying “the majority of queer people are white” is wrong unless you’re specifying America but even then statistics like that often skew to older white people so it’s likely there are even more queer POC people. Also bringing up queer people in this conversation is entirely irrelevant anyways.

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Anonymous #12 4d

Yeah, looking back these statistics don't mean much. I really just wanted to express my feelings about the title.

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Anonymous #9 4d

what makes your think a high incidence of queer and democrat white people makes wins like this rare 😭? the democratic party is evil, has aided and abetted countless genocides, sanctions that have strangled the global south, and is part of the amerikan establishment (and they attack everyone who is an abolitionist); antiblackness runs rampantttt in white queer spaces; a lot of white queer people do not include the global south in their praxis because they have none. that’s just the surface😭!

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Anonymous #13 4d

see replies

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Anonymous #9 4d

real answer: white people (other than Irish and Jewish) do not and have never experienced systematic racism and never will in the US. interpersonal racism against white people exists but it is neither common nor worsens their lives in a significant way, especially compared to how it affects POC.

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Anonymous #9 4d

*Irish people have been treated normally for centuries and white Jewish people are hated for their religion so neither can be used as evidence for discrimination against white people in the modern day

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Anonymous #16 4d

Irish, Italian, and Eastern European people haven’t been treated normally for centuries that’s like fairly recent (within the last hundred years) but ya there’s no modern day discrimination against any white Americans for being white

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Anonymous #9 4d

in any case, white people tend to be apathetic to and disbelieving of POC and their experiences with racism since they, themselves, have never been discriminated against in a significant way. they do not realize the humiliation, dehumanization, and real effect it has on their lives, so it’s uncommon (but very welcome) to see white people participating in activism against racism, especially considering how white people make up much of the country.

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Anonymous #12 4d

truke

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Anonymous #16 4d

"neither common nor worsens their lives in a significant way" what amount of racism is required for it to be significant

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Anonymous #9 4d

does racism affect your daily life? do you fear harassment in public spaces because of your skin color? does being in a space with those of a different race make you afraid that you’ll be treated differently or othered? does media frequently portray your as race as inherently dangerous, uneducated, lesser?

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Anonymous #16 4d

thankfully, no! it's only occasional. and yet, I ask again, what is the minimum about of racism for it to be bad?

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Anonymous #9 4d

that wasn’t your original question. all racism is bad. this post, however, is not racist. “rare white American w” refers to how white Americans as a group rarely participate in activism against racism (and most activism supporting racism is done primarily by white people). I’m sorry but everyone else interpreted it this way, if you didn’t then you’re completely misinterpreting the point.

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Anonymous #16 4d

my most recent question about racism referred to your comment that whites have never experienced significant experienced racism, not the post. My claim about the post is that it is hurtful, and that the truth of a statement doesn't warrant it's public exclamation. If I said "rare black peacefulness" that would be horrible, even if black people are disproportionately subject to engaging in crime (a product of poverty, NOT culture or race). I'm aware of the unfortunate tendencies of white people

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Anonymous #9 4d

you are not oppressed for being white. I’m done with this conversation. I hope you grow as a person and realize not everything is about you.

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Anonymous #9 4d

You’re centering your feels as a white person in a conversation about racism and ignoring what POC have to say. Reflect and stop responding you are digging your hole deeper. Sincerely, Another white person

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Anonymous #16 4d

i am not oppressed, other groups face far more issues than myself, they deserve my attention, and yet hurtful claims are still bad. I hope you learn someday that someone being saddened doesn't make them a nazi, and I especially wish you a nice rest of your day/night

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Anonymous #9 4d

no one called you a Nazi except for yourself. with that statement I’m pretty certain you’re just trolling. I’m sad that I wasted my time on you.

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Anonymous #12 4d

that’s because they were not considered white. even now, ashkenazim technically experience a form of conditional whiteness. even though ashkenazim have been incorporated into whiteness, as well as the amerikan superstructure, there’s still virulent antisemitism. but i don’t want to center them, because antisemitism has been discursively weaponized to silence critique of israeli settler colonialism and also undermine the pervasiveness of antiblackness (which scaffolds the foundation of america)

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Anonymous #12 4d

Hello other white person, I have engaged with a significant number of POC's points, but my central claims have not been engaged with. We've been saying for decades that feelings play a role in morality, and that still includes white people, and you've been conditioned to hate that idea. That's bad, but it's thankfully not *that* bad, because being white is usually easier, so you can keep engaging in this hole I dug to express my thoughts, or you can leave, which case I'll wish you a great day

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Anonymous #13 4d

- and orientalist-islamophobia (which really becomes institutionalized when america started invading and colonizing other nations. islamophobia really enters the picture during the “war on terror” after 9/11).

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Anonymous #13 4d

like hitler was inspired by american white settlers. he called slavs “redskins” (racialized pejorative of native americans) and he infamously said the “volga will be our mississippi”. slavs & jews were considered ‘impure’ and inferior - (not white). they were racialized as foreign to the land. slavs were referred to as ‘half-breeds’ because of pseudo historical narratives of ‘subhuman asiatics’ tainting the pure blood? either way, no ‘white’ person has experienced racism. just expanding on u!

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Anonymous #16 4d

I'm clearly comparing being called a nazi to the claims suggested about me that I think white people are being forced into a place of oppression. This is not trolling, nor it is a cry for help, it is just an expression of my feelings and a discussion about what it objectively entails.

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Anonymous #13 4d

this is precisely because all the examples ppl bring up to say white peoples experience racism is wrong - they were not white at that moment in time so it rlly becomes anachronistic.

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Anonymous #9 4d

i was elaborating on someone in the thread literally didn’t ask, circus clown

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Anonymous #13 4d

not to but in, but antisemitism has absolutely been weaponized. I fw you saying the truth, but also clarifying that it's weaponized

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Anonymous #13 4d

“Race” as a system only becomes coherent because whiteness is the anchor point around which every other racial category is constructed. Every other race is constructed as: —less than —deviation —excess —proximity or distance to whiteness.

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Anonymous #9 4d

that’s nice but you’re also centering yourself

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Anonymous #13 4d

anyways as i was saying: race is relational to whiteness whereby people are collapsed into an existence that is real only in negation to it; it’s really just an indicator of proximity from whiteness. & it persists only because its contradictions keep being violently resolved in whiteness’s favor, to maintain that coherent central and ‘superior’ image. ‘personal racism’ isn’t real. that’s a racist myth that pretends all races are on level playing fields. the very idea of race is made around yt-

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Anonymous #13 4d

that being said, the idea of ‘race’ is separated from its origins (whiteness: a nascent expanding social class) , epistemologically functioning as a stable noun for the working class to stratify populations and generate sectarian lateral hostility as to distract from its structurally ontological function as a process of population management and administration of bodies. it’s structurally incoherent, historically inconsistent, and paradoxical.

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Anonymous #13 4d

white people benefit from whiteness. they don’t actually experience ‘racism’. sociology classes don’t actually threaten capital, so they reproduce these wild ideas of ‘different forms of racism’ to distract from its violent function in this genocidal settler colony. talking about sum ‘white people experience racism’ they don’t because that’s not what racism is. it’s always white fragility (when they’re confronted with what they benefit from) that they erroneously frame as racism.

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Anonymous #9 4d

are you ever occasionally pathologized in blood and body? dehumanized? raped or fantasized ab? were your skulls washed from the steppe after your people were massacred and then sent to berlin to be studied for ‘racial inferiorities’? are your remains consumed ritualistically or displayed in museums for white people to gawk at? like i feel bad for #16 & other black people. the burden of ideological and pedagogical labor of explaining function of racism does not fall on those who survive it

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Anonymous #13 4d

black people are constantly expected to entertain clowns like you and god forbid they don’t meet insurmountable expectations and don’t go out of their way to help white people unlearn the deep-rooted social conditioning they go through to see amerika for what it is…(like white people still have the audacity to insinuate that they experience racism). yet still, black people fight against the weight of empire every day. they have literally made abolitionist and postcolonial literature so rich.

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Anonymous #13 4d

I really hate to do this, but it seems like your first 4-5 messages don't even refute a claim I made, besides whether or not white people experience racism, which is a semantic debate. Unless you want to point out what you're refuting like I have, I can't engage. Also, idk what "you're centering yourself" refutes either. I'm sorry. You're also incredibly upset over a discussion you've decided to engage in, name calling, and expressly upset about the reality of debate itself. Hope night improves

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