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Genuine question: is it ethical to lie about being nonbinary if I could pass as a cis woman if I wanted to in order to get some sexual attention? Pls don’t hate me I’ve just been so lonely and the guys here only want women
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Anonymous 1d

Do what you want who cares gender is a construct just make sure you can keep yourself safe!

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Anonymous 1d

Like I’m lowkey genderfluid so I do feel girlish sometimes but I don’t feel like I could ever be a woman or at least not do it “right”. So even though I can pass as one idk if it’s okay to just say yes when people ask me if I’m a woman so they keep talking to me, or to remove my pronoun pins when I go out to meet people etc

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Anonymous 1d

I do not think this is ethical

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Anonymous 1d

I’m non-binary and would highkey be uncomfortable with being viewed as my AGAB during sex, especially with the sex talk around it since that’s often VERY gendered… that said I’m openly non-binary and can pass as a cis guy, but have never had issues with sex/relationships while I’ve been out. pan/bi people are always a safe bet for us :)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

After talking to some people I think I’m just gonna do this, the pros greatly outweigh the cons for me

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Why not

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

That feels deceptive to me, and the truth is going to come out sooner or later so you may as well just say it at the start

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

If it’s just a short fling idk what the issue would be, and if I could finally get with someone my type, I’d be ok with detransitioning for it ngl. Like the “truth” just wouldn’t ever come out The reason I don’t say it from the start is because nobody wants me after they hear I go by they them instead of she her, that’s what this post is about

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 21h

Tbh you need to realize that this could get you killed. Its unsafe for you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 20h

It wouldn’t because I’d just detransition?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20h

I’d be fine being viewed as a woman as long as the language being used during sex doesn’t reflect that tbh. Many cis women don’t like that either so it wouldn’t be super weird to suggest, I’ve already been looking for bi people but there’s barely any and the ones that exist are just looking for cis men or women so

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20h

I’d rather just lean more into my feminine side and try to be something I feel like I can’t be (even if I wanted to, which I sometimes do) instead of continuing to wait around losing hope I’ll ever find anything

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 19h

if you’re really planning on doing this, you shouldn’t stay in contact with these people for long or try turning it into a relationship or becoming friends/fwb. it can be life-threatening if they find out, especially after having some level of intimacy, so do what you can to stay safe if you follow through.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 19h

I mean it’s already life threatening being openly nonbinary in this world, I guess I just don’t understand why choosing to live as a cis woman just so I can have a fling would get me killed

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 19h

trans people are extremely vulnerable to intimate partner violence (IPT), and many of the most extreme cases of violence against us comes from IPT

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 19h

But I wouldn’t be trans anymore

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 19h

Like I know what you mean but it’s just hard to understand why I’d be in danger if I just stop using they/them pronouns, I already pass as a woman

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 17h

but you ARE trans, and if you have anything that can identify you as trans then you’d potentially be put into severe and sudden danger. having a chosen name that isn’t your legal, having friends who you’re out to slip up and call you by your pronouns around him, even just something you say that makes him think you might be trans. all of this can endanger you, which is why you should be safe and not keep your flings around for long or try starting a relationship with them.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 17h

also if you get into a relationship with someone who sees you as a woman when you’re not a woman, you’ll end up being miserable. I did what you’re wanting to try for my first relationship and it was horrible. don’t do that to yourself. don’t get into a long-term relationship while hiding your real gender.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 17h

Why do you feel the need to detransition be be loved?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 17h

Fair point, I’m not looking for any long term commitment right now though. When I’m actually ready to try to find someone to settle down with, I’ll probably be in a much larger city or a more progressive area that would make it more likely for me to find someone into nonbinary people who was also my type

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 17h

My post and comments explain it, but in short, it’s because the kinds of people I’m into aren’t into nonbinary people, maybe some of them exist but they’re sure as hell not here

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 17h

ok, I trust that you know the danger and that you’ll stay safe. let us know if you have any success, since we want you to be safe and we’re happy to share in your happiness :)

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 13h

how would this get them killed?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 13h

Thanks for the input and support, I’m a very cautious person when it comes to dating so I would only get into something if I know I’d feel comfortable with it, even if it’s not 100% ideal 🙇

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 12h

see explanation below about intimate partner violence, or look into studies about it and how trans people are especially vulnerable to it

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