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Gay men need to learn that just because they’re gay, that doesn’t mean it’s okay for them to make unsolicited sexual comments about a woman’s body.
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Anonymous 1w

well i hate to say this but gay men are still men...

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Anonymous 1w

It’s still creepy to make lewd unsolicited comments about a woman’s chest even if you don’t want to have sex with her

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Anonymous 1w

No one needs to make any unsolicited sexual comments about anyone else’s body.

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Anonymous 1w

Don't know why you're just specifying men when women make rude comments about men all the time. I've had several women point out my physical traits (good and bad), and suggest surgeries I should get. I was never that insecure until these women brought me down, even women I would consider my friend. And of course they see no problem with it

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Anonymous 1w

I don’t see this as any more of a problem than us men making gay jokes towards other men

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Anonymous 1w

Btw I’m a raging feminist that calls men moids on a daily basis. I just don’t see it as a problem when they don’t actually have a shred of atoms in their neurons that means anything they say in a sexually violating way towards women because they’re actually gay.

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Anonymous 1w

If I’m wrong, I’m open to criticism.

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Anonymous 1w

I don’t think those are gay men then.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

This.

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Anonymous replying to -> sheepie 1w

Have you heard of a phrase called “punching down”?

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Anonymous replying to -> sheepie 1w

You don’t have to *mean* for something to be sexually violating in order for it to be so. If a gay guy grabbed a woman’s butt without asking her would that also be okay?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Oh, fck no

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Like even if two straight men were interacting, or maybe two straight women (though I uh.. trust women more tbh) it would still be violating asf. I think I even remember doing this a couple times in high school to a couple straight guy friends or something. I could be misremembering. I’ve never done this to a woman though, still not okay, obv

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I’ve heard of it. Though how would you explain it during this context?

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Anonymous replying to -> sheepie 1w

It’s a term often used when describing jokes. “Punching up” is when somebody makes a joke about a group who has more power than they do. Like if a gay person makes a joke about how straight relationships are weird. That’s generally cool because there’s a history of queer relationships being targeted, and in this case they’re reversing the established dynamics. “Punching down” is when somebody with more power makes a joke about somebody with less power.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Like if a straight person made a joke about how weird gay relationships are. That’s not really funny, because there’s a history of gay relationships being discriminated against and this is just reinforcing that stigma. So if a straight dude makes jokes about being gay, that’s not usually funny to me. And if a gay guy makes comments about a woman’s body, he’s still a man and therefore is perfectly capable of being misogynistic, whether he intends to or not.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

That… makes a lot of sense actually.

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Anonymous replying to -> sheepie 1w

Exactly, and words in this case are similar. It’s not about whether or not he’s actually attracted to her, those kinds of comments still feel really uncomfortable and violating. So unless she explicitly says she’s alright with those comments being made about her body, it’s incredibly rude to say explicit things about her

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Anonymous replying to -> sheepie 1w

no serusly tho i learned something new

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Gotcha!! Well, I knew the last half xD

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 1w

what are you on about?

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Anonymous replying to -> sheepie 1w

Dont expect any logical reasoning here

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

i feel like u should understand thats way different and not as systematic as hearing that “vaginas are ugly and disgusting” thereby feeling shame.. literally anyone is allowed to point out physical traits but the second you try putting others down thats when it becomes horrible. Yeah telling sm to get surgery is horrible but your “what about” is redirecting attention to the fact that gay men try to ally themselves with women in the name of feminism and equal rights, but end up being no better

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 1w

Moid detected, opinion rejected

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Anonymous replying to -> sheepie 1w

Why did I get 7 negative votes here, didn’t 7 think it would be okay?!!!

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