Anonymous #2 1d

Yeah cause that’s wrong

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Anonymous #2 1d

See, you get it

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All of them have experienced misogyny. Before, during, and in most cases after their transition.

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Anonymous #1 1d

Except it’s not yall just want to position yourselves as eternal victims that can never be criticized. You can have a bad experience and still react in a way that is equally bad and harmful

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Anonymous #2 1d

What the fuck are you talking about? Who is “yourselves?”

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Anonymous #1 1d

I wasn’t aware that you were the single spokesperson for trans men, trans women, and cis women. What a great honor!

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Anonymous OP 1d

It doesn’t take a degree in gender studies to know that trans men are victims of systemic and endemic misogyny.

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Anonymous OP 1d

When trans men are born and assigned female them they have experienced misogyny… thats quite literally how our society is set up thanks to colonialism and imperialism.

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Anonymous #1 1d

I’m not going to entertain something that’s clearly being argued in bad faith

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Anonymous #4 1d

Did you ask every trans man to ever exist this question to come to this conclusion?

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Anonymous OP 1d

Are you suggesting that someone who is assigned female by society could possibly not experience misogyny at some point in their life? Because thats just being willfully dense lol.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Did I say that anywhere? Why are you assuming that every single trans man has experienced misogyny? You’re responding to a point I didn’t make. I didn’t say no trans men experience misogyny. I asked how you know all trans men do.

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Anonymous OP 1d

You said not every single trans man has experienced misogyny. Read what i said. I said are you suggesting that someONE who is assigned female could possibly go through life without experiencing patriarchy and misogyny? Unless you are born in the woods with wolves, we experience social constructs against us everyday. Are you saying a black person could realistically exist in todays world and not experience racism? Im black and thats simply not possible.

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Anonymous #4 1d

At no point did I argue that misogyny doesn’t exist or that people assigned female never experience it. You’ve spent multiple replies arguing against positions I never took. Since we’re clearly not discussing the same things, I’m going to leave it here.

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Anonymous OP 1d

You said that not every single trans man had experienced misogyny. Reread what you said. I dont need to ask every trans man if theyve experienced misogyny at one point in their life. They HAVE because i understand social constructs and how misogyny works. I understand how racism works. I don’t NEED to ask every trans man. Thats like when discussing racism saying “well have you ASKED every poc if theyve experienced racism??”. Its not a necessary step because its an accepted fact.

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Anonymous OP 23h

Trans men ARE included in conversations about misogyny because they have EXPERIENCED it at least at one point in their life and may still continue to do so. No one is forcing them into these conversations. They are welcome in these conversations and often their experiences help us understand misogyny better. Just grow up and let people identify themselves.

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Anonymous OP 17h

And you are? Someone thinks they are special

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Anonymous #6 17h

def more special then mfers who think men can be lesbians, yeah 👍

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Anonymous OP 17h

I don’t think a man can be a lesbian but it’s also NONE OF MY BUSINESS! It literally takes no energy to go “oh ok” and MOVE ON

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Anonymous #7 12h

me when i’m chronically online

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Anonymous OP 12h

yeah you are lol, normal people will say “oh ok” and move on. you are not a pundit on every person’s complex & personal identity.

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Anonymous OP 12h

you came into this “discussion” by offhandedly demeaning trans men lesbians so clearly you just want to start shit. if you want to actually have a discussion then make a post where you aren’t obviously unwilling to listen.

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Anonymous #7 11h

Good one lmao. I genuinely don’t remember asking or caring about anything you have to say. I’m not talking to someone who also clearly isn’t coming into the discussion with good faith

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