Anonymous #1 8w

Some communities are college only but not this one (and it shows)

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Anonymous #1 8w

omg i frickin knew it

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Anonymous #2 8w

there’s a difference between being mad abt smth a group did (which i am as an army) and chanting for them to disband and/or acting like they’re completely irredeemable evil pieces of shit

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Anonymous #3 8w

i agree but i don’t think we should assume ppl r horrible unless they’re in jail or super junior lmao

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Anonymous #1 8w

(And I love the wholesome people on here even when they’re supporting groups I don’t follow and stuff which is why I’m on here I mean the lame miserable stuff)

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Anonymous OP 8w

I assumed Red Velvet wasn’t a good group and I was right. I’m still convinced Wendy would call me a nigga. Or better yet, do the “Mm mm Mm oh no girl😙😝☝️”

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Anonymous #3 8w

that’s kinda the opposite of what i’m trying to say but i get it

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No ones acting like it’s actually going to happen. They’re responding to people being annoying and harassing ppl with it bc it’s obviously coming a different sentiment than accountability.

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Anonymous #4 8w

that’s a nice opinion

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Anonymous #5 8w

politely stfu

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Anonymous #5 8w

don’t know what there is to call out

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Anonymous OP 8w

dw you’ll grow out of it once you get older than 15

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Anonymous #5 8w

hilarious. im open to having a genuine convo (as evidenced by my other comments) but ig all u can do is call me, a random person, a child. do u have anything important to say?

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Anonymous OP 8w

im just saying the indifference about these people hanging with a known domestic abuser is weird girl. I can only hope you seriously are an ignorant teenager and not an adult because it would be really pathetic then

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Anonymous OP 8w

and ya just because you like them doesn’t make them or this stuff redeemable?? use your brain please

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Anonymous #5 8w

i never said that

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Anonymous OP 8w

“we shouldn’t assume people are horrible unless they’re in jail” like this isn’t implying what they did wasn’t that bad 😭 you can be shitty and irredeemable without being imprisoned for it lmao

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Anonymous #5 8w

what makes u think im indifferent? i think this was an awful decision. it’s valid to like someone even if there are also certain things abt them u don’t like. the fact that this is apparently so hard for ppl to understand is why i made this post

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Anonymous OP 8w

i mean if they genuinely apologized sure but bsfr the fact that the situations with them keep getting messy and and it doesn’t look like the apology is coming anytime soon and the chris brown was my last straw

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Anonymous #5 8w

yeah obviously, at no point did i say that bts has never done anything wrong. idk how much ur actually trying to understand what im saying

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Anonymous OP 8w

ur acting like repeated and blatant racism is some tiny little mistake that they should be forgiven for

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Anonymous #4 8w

personally i do forgive them and i think there’s much more to like than there is to dislike, but ik that not everyone sees things that way

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Anonymous OP 8w

theyre calling this the whitest take ever

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Anonymous #4 8w

im black…

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Anonymous OP 8w

this is genuinely sad stand up… complicit in ur own oppression bc thats dada

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Anonymous #4 8w

ok first of all i do NOT feel oppressed by bts😂. second how many times do i have to explain that for me the good outweighs the bad?

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Anonymous OP 8w

the upholding of racism is on a systemic basis not a personal one. and it is insane that you can disregard oppressive beliefs and the perpetration of actions that hold up oppressive systems especially as a black person yourself

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Anonymous #4 8w

what exactly do you expect me to do?

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Anonymous OP 8w

not pretend like you can redeem yourself from repeated blatant racism

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Anonymous #4 7w

i don’t think i’ve ever seen them express harmful racist beliefs (ex 13/50, anti dei, pro war on drugs, ethnostates/“freedom of association” etc). that kinda thing is where i personally draw the line

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Anonymous OP 7w

even if you want to ignore all the n-word and colorism shit theyve said in english because theyre korean jimin literally said 깜둥**

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Anonymous #4 7w

i can acknowledge those things happened and that i don’t like that they happened, but that’s doesn’t change anything

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Anonymous OP 7w

youre actively supporting these racists

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Anonymous #4 7w

i don’t think they’re racists bc i haven’t seen any racist beliefs. they could be there but i dont see them, i only see cringey offensive moments

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Anonymous OP 7w

how the fuck is saying 깜둥** just a “cringey offensive moment”

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Anonymous #4 7w

그리고 저런 말을 해놓고도 그냥 “cringey offensive moment”이라고 생각하는 게 더 이해가 안 됨. 인종차별적인 표현을 직접 써놓고 그걸 그냥 좀 불쾌하고 민망했던 순간 정도로 치부하는 건 대체 무슨 기준임?

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Anonymous #4 7w

bc u can say it without actually believing anything racist

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Anonymous OP 7w

“아무런 인종차별적 믿음 없이도 깜둥**이라고 말할 수 있다”는 건 결국 그 단어 자체가 가진 인종차별적인 의미와 맥락을 무시하는 거고. 적어도 그런 인종차별적인 표현을 아무렇지 않게 사용한 것 자체가 인종차별적인 행동인 거지

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Anonymous #4 7w

my korean ain’t THAT good but it’s not that i think you can/should say that word, i just don’t think saying it makes u an inherently racist person if u don’t also have racist beliefs

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Anonymous OP 7w

respond to me in korean if you know enough to understand the context behind that word. would you say that saying the hard r isnt racist?

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Anonymous #4 7w

네

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Anonymous OP 7w

lolol is that all you can say? kpop has rotted your brain and ruined your morals

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Anonymous #4 7w

look i’ve already thoroughly explained my position. if u don’t agree with me, that’s fine, but idk what it is ur somehow STILL not understanding

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Anonymous #4 7w

I agree that kpop and idols themselves uphold a negative systemic structure in many ways but trying to act like bts are the emblem of this just because they are the biggest group and constantly attacking them is such a performative way of taking action against very real issues and doesn’t actually tackle them when u proceed to support others that don’t do half of the positives that bts also has done in their career.

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Anonymous #1 7w

its not because theyre “the biggest group.” youre strawmanning so hard because you cannot comprehend the idea of someone actually holding kpop idols accountable for racism and finding racism unforgivable. there is nothing performative about pointing out the usage of racist slurs

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Anonymous #4 7w

It’s not about the people genuinely holding them accountable or the people truly and justifiably hurt by their past. It’s about the unfortunately LARGE amount of users that also take away from real conversations to be had by using bts as their punching bag. There were a lot of ppl saying the most vile things ive ever seen about them when they were seen with McDonalds- and id understand the contention if it were from a true place- but click on their profiles and u see them with coke/starbucks.

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Anonymous #4 7w

Its users like that that go out of their way to argue with army and shit on bts while staying obsessed with them and also take away from real accountability with violent hate trains etc. not u but same people that use their past as a gotcha moment while being quick to throw out microaggressions/racism to armys defending them. These are the people that are the loudest about hating them.

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Anonymous #1 7w

this has nothing to do with the fact that bts is racist. whats the point in bringing up performative activism in a conversation about the very real racist actions a group of people have performed? if anything, THAT is taking away from discussing racism. i dont like people who dont actually stand behind their beliefs, so i dont like hypocrites and performative activists, but this is not the conversation for that to be brought up

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