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He’s not the only one to have confronted the shooter tho. But to the news, Jews confronting a Jew-murdering shooter is normal and not newsworthy, but the Muslim confronting the Jew-murdering Muslim shooter is “wowwwww” Allows the story to deflect from why the shooting happened in the first place

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And yet there were others that aren’t getting the same news coverage. Australian politicians have met with him in the hospital but have yet to visit a victim. There’s a clear push to make the story about a Muslim savior over the religion-unmentioned perpetrators

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Brother, they were ISIS affiliated. That’s a religious terrorist organization. It’s literally religiously motivated, of course it’s relevant. The motive was religion, how is it NOT relevant?

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This stuff is going to keep happening to us until people like you stop defending bad Muslims. No one is saying all Muslims did this, but it’s completely relevant and even important to say that the people that did this believe their religion commands them to do these things.

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ISIS is Muslim Muslim is not ISIS We all acknowledge this separation. My original point was the specific framing of the Muslim hero as opposed to amplifying the other ones is used to downplay the religious extremist motive of the attack

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That’s not a claim that can be backed by evidence unless media companies announce it themselves. It’s called an opinion.

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No one is denying they’ve reported on ISIS links. It’s not a matter of personal biases if this entire thread is an observation of the odd overrepresentation of stories on the hero vs victims. This is an anecdotal conversation you’ve joined in on. The added context was that there were also other heros that get less media attention and our opinions on why.

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If we’re not allowed to factor in religion, which is the biggest factor of the entire situation to begin with, then we’re essentially not allowed to talk about it. Problems need to actually be talked about for solutions

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Because the hero and victims don’t live in a vacuum. They have identities and those identities contribute to news coverage. If grey NPC killed 15 grey NPCs it would just be another weekend in Chicago. What makes this case more newsworthy are the identities of those involved whether it be the shooter, heroes, or victims

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The ISIS affiliation was just announced a couple days ago. 2 days after the attack. NOW, it is a more fitting specific label to give, yes. But it was clearly ignored before then. And I still stand by that I find it logical that media would find it a better story to push the Muslim as the savor from Muslims than the other Jews who also tried to fight back. It’s not a knock to him, but it’s just logically a better story that will sell

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I meant moreso that they shouldn’t have pulled the classic “Jews shot dead, motive unclear” move for the first couple days. Me calling out that the shooters were Muslim was to make the point that the story sells better as a Muslim-stopping-Muslim story

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Anonymous #2 23h

Someone justifying something in the name of their religion doesn’t make it “religiously motivated.” It is not the religion that is motivating that, it is a more specific ideology

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