Anonymous #3 6w

So you’re just like knowingly racist? Interesting. I always hope it’s at least ignorance

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Anonymous OP 6w

What race is being discriminated against here exactly?

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Anonymous OP 6w

I’m sorry do you know nothing about how the Arabs and British were treating the Jewish Palestinians? The British packed their bags and the Muslim brotherhood didn’t sit down and discuss sharing the land. They attacked over and over and over and lost again and again and again, I’m so sorry that my ancestors didn’t want modern day Uganda as their homeland. Open the fucking bible and learn Jewish history

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Anonymous #1 6w

Uhh all the residents of the region at the time? He literally called them barbaric savages who needed to be colonized 😭

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Anonymous OP 6w

Do you actually like genuinely not know what they do to Jews in the part of the world? you are getting offended by words on a page

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Anonymous #3 6w

Huh?

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Anonymous OP 6w

Jews lived in the levant since the Old Testament, throughout time we were kicked to the fucking curb and all of a sudden when it’s time to take the land back WHICH WE BOUGHT FROM THE BRITISH CROWN you have a problem? do you actually not know about the eradication of the Jews in the Middle East?

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Anonymous OP 6w

This isn’t about race, it’s about the Jews fought blood sweat and fucking tears, innovated the land and turned a desert into a garden, either accept democracy or GET THE FUCK OUT

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Anonymous #3 6w

Not any worse than the way the leaders of the Zionist movement were extremely racist and antisemitic. Like why would you support a white supremacist European nationalist movement that hated most Jews, esp religious Jews

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Anonymous OP 6w

Are you fucking stupid? THE EUROPEAN NATIONALIST MOVEMENT WAS ZIONISM

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Anonymous #3 6w

And they did want Uganda and other places: they didn’t see themselves as indigenous and saw the indigenous residents of the levant as dirty barbarians. They saw themselves as Europeans. Like I said

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Anonymous #3 6w

Yeah exactly… what’s your point?

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Anonymous OP 6w

no just no, JEWS SAW THEMSELVES AS JEWS AND EVERYONE ELSE AS AN ENEMY, BECAUSE THATS THE WAY WE SURVIVED HISTORY

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Anonymous #3 6w

The settler Jews of the Zionist movement didn’t tho? They identified as Europeans and racially superior to the indigenous ppl of the land. They looked down on the indigenous Jews as backwards along with the rest of the indigenous ppl of the land

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Anonymous #3 6w

They fought the indigenous Palestinians not just the British. In fact the British was largely on their side. Esp as compared to the indigenous pop

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Anonymous OP 6w

the average Ashkenazi Jew did not think less of other Jews just because some rich guy in your book said so, as far as I’m concerned you aren’t Jewish if you can’t support the homeland. PERIOD

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Anonymous OP 6w

That Jews around the world were pro Zion, ITS CALLED THE RIGHT TO RETURN, please please learn about the AMERICAN Zionist movement

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Anonymous #3 6w

I’m Jewish pls stop being incredibly antisemitic and hostile

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Anonymous #3 6w

Ashkenazi racism against mizrahi and Palestinian Jews is well documented wdym 😭

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Anonymous OP 6w

no, I won’t, you genuinely hate the land of Israel and want to see the Jewish people crumble

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Anonymous #3 6w

I’m very well educated on the Zionist movement and history, it seems you’re very misinformed. Try starting with primary sources and do your own independent research

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Anonymous #3 6w

It is largely about race (and capital ofc) when it’s an ethnostate and rights are determined by ethnicity wdym 😭

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Anonymous OP 6w

my guy, HISTORY IS HISTORY. MY FATHERS GRANDPARENTS HAD TO FLEE YEMEN AND KURDISTAN BECAUSE JEWS WERE BEING ETHNICALLY CLEANSED. THEY LATER CAME BACK TO PALESTINE TO HELP MAKE IT BECOME ISRAEL, fuck your book, this is real life experience

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Anonymous #3 6w

What is wrong with deserts you racist with a European mindset

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Anonymous OP 6w

ITS NOT SYSTEMATIC, it’s called white guys don’t like brown guys, ive been there I’ve done that you fucking moron I’m literally mixed

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Anonymous #3 6w

Exactly. Learn from facts and primary sources instead of the propaganda you’ve blindly accepted your whole life. You’re supporting an inherently anti Jewish movement And yeah ethnically cleansed by Israel… why do you support your oppressors

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Anonymous OP 6w

Israel is an ethnostate 🤣 you must be dense

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Anonymous OP 6w

It’s not fit for a practical civilization, western society is the cure for the world

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Anonymous #3 6w

Yeah… that’s what I just said lmao

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Anonymous OP 6w

IM BEING SARCASTIC YOU FUCKING IDIOT

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Anonymous #3 6w

You don’t know what any of these terms mean

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Anonymous OP 6w

No, actually you don’t, it’s clear that you know nothing about the modern state, keep reading books about how evil the whiteman is

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Anonymous OP 6w

You must be fucking brain dead or baiting regardless I’m done with your nonsense

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Anonymous #3 6w

You’re projecting bc you know absolutely nothing about the real history

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Anonymous OP 6w

Is unacceptable and the eastern way of life must be eradicated

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Anonymous OP 6w

So take this somewhere else and complain about the 2 atomic bombs we dropped on Japan cause they attacked our boats

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Yeah I stopped reading after the Islamophobia. You’re a white supremacist shmuck trying to tie white supremacy into Judaism and everyone properly educated sees right thru you. Now go worship your white supremacist idol hertzl and leave real Jews out of it you troglodyte troll

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Wishing rape on children is insane, what is wrong with you. Your assumption that I’m Muslim just bc I’m not Islamophobic is insane too. Sorry, no, I’m just not a violent racist like you

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Anonymous OP 6w

WAKE THE FUCK UP

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Anonymous OP 6w

So you agree that child marriage is immoral, now we are getting somewhere 💀

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Anonymous #3 6w

Ofc so do Muslims you racist

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Anonymous OP 6w

Sure buddy keep living in a fairytale

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Anonymous OP 6w

It’s only colonialism if it’s from the colonialism region of France. For the Arabs, it’s just sparkling Jihad.

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Anonymous #4 6w

what in the racist he’ll 😭

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Anonymous #4 6w

*hell

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Anonymous #3 6w

Western morality is confused and G-dless. Not from Washington but from Zion shall go forth the torah, the word of G-d from Jerusalem, not from London.

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Anonymous #5 6w

The fact that white supremacist talking points are being upvoted is insane

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That’s called a country government being reactionary due to western imperialism, my love. Not representative of the followers of Islam

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What does that have to do with Muslims

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Yeah again what does that have to do with the PEOPLE? Not governments…

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Anonymous OP 6w

200 Leftists vs understanding cause and effect

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And you think it’s funny to wish rape on children?

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Anonymous #4 6w

Have you ever studied world history

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Yeah and have you read the Torah or Christian bible…. Literally says the same shit

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Anonymous OP 6w

Neither Christianity nor Judaism permit child marriage, nor do they have an ongoing problem with it

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So why are joining in with 3 instead of denouncing his desires for a 9yo child to be raped?

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Anonymous #4 6w

And neither does Islam despite what the historical texts say, what is not clicking

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By wishing for a child to be raped, holy shit 😭 can you read

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It does matter though. That kind of statement is not acceptable

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Here he is wishing for a 9yo child to be raped and laughing about it

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Anonymous OP 6w

No I’m not, I’m telling you that the Middle East is not safe for women and for some reason you think I’m wrong?

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🤣🤣🤣

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They didn’t reject it, it didn’t work out in their favor. They got a deal from the British to colonize Palestine. So they took that

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Anonymous OP 6w

Nope, we killed the British til they shut the fuck up and let more Jewish migrants

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Tzadik, you know the truth

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Correct again

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Anonymous #3 6w

No the British literally helped and aided the colonization of Palestine so that a settler colony could even be possible what are you talking about 😭 ofc the Europeans are on the side of the other Europeans. Are you dense

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3 for 3 #6 is on a roll

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Anonymous OP 6w

Nope, they were never on our side, the British never wanted the Jews to own the land

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#6 can I vote you for president?

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Anonymous #3 6w

For worlds most racist white supremacist

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Anonymous OP 6w

No, not a white supremacist, it’s called a Jewish survivor, we fight back or we die, the kingdom of Zion lives

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Anonymous #3 6w

You’re not a white supremacist but obsessed with western “culture”. Which doesn’t even align with the levant 😭😭

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Maybe tag teaming with a white supremacist wishing for the rape of a 9yo doesn’t really paint you out to be the most ethical person

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Anonymous OP 6w

It aligns with JUDAISM, Jews evolve, assimilate and adapt, read about Alexander the Great in the kingdom of Judea read about Agamemnon

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Yes he’s trying to “gotcha” me with his racism in mocking the rape of my hypothetical child in order to be Islamophobic, I know

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Anonymous OP 6w

It’s NOT A PHOBIA ITS A REACTION TO REAL WORLD ISSUES

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Anonymous #3 6w

You don’t even know what the word phobia is, do you just make up facts

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Yes. As it’s happened in most ancient civilizations and societies including early Christianity and Judaism. And including our own modern American society, actually. It’s not an accurate representation of modern Muslim beliefs or the people

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Anonymous OP 6w

You are being brainwashed, that simple, holy theocratic belief

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Yeah I know you were trying to be racist by implying that Muslims support child marriage, in general. By invoking for the desire for my hypothetical child to be raped. We get it

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The US and its allies. And by proxy, the reactionary actions of governments in response to western intervention and imperialism

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That is not exclusively what phobia means, pls open a book. That’s the infantile literal translation of the word. Not its meaning

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Anonymous OP 6w

I don’t care, wait I don’t care, blame the west for everything when ITS LITERALLY WESTERN CIVILIANS THAT ALLOWS SOCIETY TO FLOURISH TODAY

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Anonymous #3 6w

Whatever you say not. Seee

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Son I’m CRINE 💀💀💀💀🤣🇺🇸

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You really are incapable of critical thinking and just use idealism to interpret the world and history, huh

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Anonymous #3 6w

Rape is so funny bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Yes bc what happens when the US utilizes pink and purple washing to justify the invasion and obliteration of that part of the world? Hmmm. I wonder what material reality by GOVERNMENTS often happens in reaction to that

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Is pink and purple washing when they make something LGBTQ?

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Anonymous OP 6w

No way you are anti LGBTQ and ANTI FEMINISM??? wtf???

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Okay I can spell it out for you even further. What happens when the US, who claims to be a democracy with liberal “western” values, like pro women and LGBTQ ideas (which is not even true but that’s an argument for another day), murders millions and obliterates the infrastructure and prosperity of the SWANA region, supposedly in the name of women and gay rights? They are going to reject anything American. Incl the supposedly liberal American values like pro women and gay rights.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Oh as someone who identifies as Queer the USA and ISRAEL both support me soooo 💀

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That is called historical materialism. A scientific way to analyze the world and history. Vs your idealist framework. That thinks everything derives from ideas like democracy. That’s fairy tales white colonial enlightenment shit

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Anonymous #3 6w

Oh baby. They don’t. Far from it. Poor sweet self hating child

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Anonymous #3 6w

Huh? Who said I’m anti those things, you are not the brightest

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Anonymous OP 6w

I’ll suck your dick rn bro

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Anonymous #3 6w

Sorry don’t have one

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No??? are you dense

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Anonymous OP 6w

You are anti Israel and anti USA therefore fundamentally you are anti LGBTQ and Feminism

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Yes ofc reactionary governments are the fault of the invading governments that resulted in that material reality? Duh 😭

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Anonymous OP 6w

Nope, it’s fundamental ideology that gives people power

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Anonymous #3 6w

The US is the biggest threat to democracy in the world, including here at home. The gov that wants to put women on lists. Yeah super democratic

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Anonymous #3 6w

Material realities don’t come from ideas. Ideas come from material reality

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Nooo??? What 😭 reactionary governments impose on their citizens. A large population of ppl are never going to be perfect. That doesn’t mean it’s representative of Islam as a whole

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Anonymous OP 6w

Flawed logic read our constitution read our Declaration of Independence read our amendments, one last thing WOMENS SUFFERAGE, legal in the USA? Why you may ask? Cause every citizen fundamentally has the right to chose and vote

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Anonymous #3 6w

You mean the constitution that recognizes slaves as 3/5 of a person?? Sorry id burn both documents if I could You’re not even a woman, stop trying to downplay the systemic misogyny in this country and the attack on our reproductive rights

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Anonymous OP 6w

Correct I’m not a woman, but the constitution no longer recognizes this, what I am is a feminist, women should be free to make their own choices, NOT TO BE SOLD as child brides

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Anonymous OP 6w

reproductive rights stem from the state not the federal government it’s all tied to religion and morality, I for one am pro choice so put your money where your mouth is

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When a founding document legitimizes slavery and the dehumanization of African Americans, I don’t want any part of it. Idc about the amendments made 100+ years later. In fact, the constitution still recognizes slavery to this day. Burn it all to the ground

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Yeah the constitution is well documented dude. Doesn’t make it legitimate

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Anonymous OP 6w

Pure racism, the document had nothing to do with African Americans, they were called indentured servants and the fact that you think Jews were even a fucking afterthought when they made the USA is insane, but guess what, we overcame the prejudice we overcame the holocaust and now the safest countries for Jews is Israel and the USA, you can’t accept the USA for what it is then I pray you never visit

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Anonymous OP 6w

You my friend are the racist

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Anonymous #3 6w

Slavery had nothing to do with African Americans? Tf are you on. Some Europeans were indentured servants, African Americans at the time were experiencing chattel slavery. Do you really not know the difference. You sound like a not. seee When did I say anything about Jews in regard to the American constitution 😭 Ok first I’m Muslim bc I’m against Islamophobia and now I’m not American bc I oppose chattel slavery 😭 insanity

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Anonymous OP 6w

No, because you are an anti - west anti American ant Zionist you are a xenophobe

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Anonymous OP 6w

ITS A JEWISH SUB, everything we talk about revolves around Judaism, Zionism is the modern Judaism point and case my guy

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Anonymous #3 6w

That’s just called being a good person with informed and humane politics btw. I know it’s hard to believe but some Americans like that do exist. We’re called socialists and anarchists

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Ofc you don’t care to progress society and the human condition, color me shocked

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Anonymous OP 6w

I care to progress American and Israeli society through the concept of reformation and liberal values

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Anonymous #3 6w

😭😭

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Anonymous OP 6w

Keep mocking my culture

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Anonymous OP 6w

Get with the times, a centralized government is the most important thing for a functioning society

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Anonymous #3 6w

Wait who said I’m against a centralized government? I most certainly am not

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Anonymous OP 6w

Good

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Anonymous #1 6w

I’m sure many have look into at least to the extent of a cursory Google search but I highly doubt that a significant portion of people have actually read their works. Maybe a quote or two, but not the texts themselves

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Anonymous #3 6w

Do you know who it was who first allowed Jews to live in Jerusalem again after we were exiled by the Romans?

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Anonymous #3 6w

In Israel they absolutely did. Go read about experiences of early Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews in the country. If you look at the experiences, including from zionists, there was a lot of quite vicious racism both from the populace there and from the Labour Zionist government (the latter of which is a big part of why Likud was able to get a lot of Mizrahi votes to get into power)

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Anonymous #3 6w

The Zionist movement was pretty controversial in America prior to the Holocaust. There was certainly an American Zionist movement amongst Jews here but there also was an American anti-Zionist movement amongst Jews

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Notice how that was in 1939, it was a wartime concession out of fear of backlash of the backlash to a massive wave of Jewish migrants and refugees threatening British control over the territory. This was a pretty significant policy change from the policy of the British Mandate prior The British, at its outset, set up a different set of rules for the Mandate of Palestine than were in place for all the other Mandates in the region, specifically to facilitate Jewish immigration and settlement

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Anonymous #3 6w

You say it’s not racist yet this is one of the most blatantly racist European supremacist statements imaginable The origins of Jewish society and culture was built in that very same desert that you call “not fit for a practical civilization”

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Anonymous #3 6w

Judaism isn’t Western and “the West” has committed all the biggest atrocities against Jews in our history

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Anonymous #2 6w

Because they’re white supremacists, and if you read them and still subscribe to the ideology it’s because your racist, or at the very least racism isn’t a dealbreaker for you

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Anonymous #3 6w

First of all, you mean systemic. Words are hard. And second, yeah, they don’t like them enough to commit a genocide against them and set up an apartheid state. That fits the dictionary definition systemic. But feel free to argue with Merriam-Webster

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Anonymous #8 6w

There are Jews and there are goyim, the specification of their races do not matter

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I know this, that’s what I’m trying to tell you, there is BNEI yisroel and every other nation is the same to me, I don not care for their race or skin color i care that non-Jews want to hurt Jews. Simple as. Goyim are Goyim

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Anonymous #8 6w

Are people also white supremacists for reading mein kampf from an educational perspective? Also if you want to define who i am, you’re gonna have to start by differentiating political zionism and the specific opinions of herzl from ideological zionism that is intrinsically linked with judaism

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Anonymous #2 6w

Can you read

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Anonymous #2 6w

Only modern political Zionism is what we’re talking about since that’s the movement that created the state of Israel. The topic of discussion 😭no one said anything against that form of Zionism

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Anonymous #7 6w

Do you not know what the Israeli black panthers are?

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Anonymous OP 6w

You said “zionists” in your initial post, not political zionists. Dont you think you should specify if you want people who meet that specific criteria to respond? Also political zionism is dead, because it had an end goal of establishing the state of israel, and that happened. Anyone claiming to be a zionist nowadays is referring strictly to maintaining israel as our homeland, as it rightfully should be

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Anonymous #2 6w

When anyone has been discussing Zionism the past three years they’re always referring to modern political Zionism bc THAT’S the issue at hand, come on It’s about the creation and MAINTENANCE of a Jewish nation state No one is talking about that otherwise they’d be a anti Zionist and they aren’t

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Anonymous OP 6w

Political zionism no longer exists. It had an end goal and that goal was met. All that’s left is people who support the existence of the jewish homeland which is israel

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Anonymous #2 6w

The end goal is the continual existence and ppl are mobilizing to dismantle it and it will be dismantled one day. It is far from over. It’s only been a few decades All that’s left are ppl that support the existence of the nation state. Which is the problem we’re trying to address

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Anonymous OP 6w

I’d love your solution for Jewish self governance

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Anonymous OP 6w

If that’s how you want to view it, then sure, but what does that make the different political parties in israel then? Some political parties in israel want israel to exist and some dont? Because not all of them fall under what is considered political zionism

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I love u

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Anonymous #3 6w

Thank you, i love you too

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Anonymous #3 6w

Socialism. An end to nationalism

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Anonymous #2 6w

Um all political parties in Israel support the continued existence of the nation state wdym

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Anonymous OP 6w

So do I

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Anonymous OP 6w

go replace the star with a cross on the flag, see how many people get up and leave

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Oh mb you’re right. Yikyak keeps notifying me “someone replied to your comment” so i got confused

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Who said i became aware of it only 3 yrs ago 😭 im talking about the discussions since then. They’ve all been about the existence of the nation state and the condemnation of its genocide on the Palestinian ppl. Not cultural Zionism bc serious actors in the discussion recognize the connection to the land. Which is why ppl DONT support the continued existence of the state Sorry but I haven’t encountered one single Zionist who wants the nation state dismantled. Otherwise they’d be an antizionist

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They were responding to me lmao

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Anonymous OP 6w

Yeah i realized, and yikyak told me “someone replied to your comment” hence the confusion

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Anonymous #3 6w

A cross? Huh

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