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While I do agree with you, I wouldn’t consider that defending one’s self. It’s just sending the rest off to the slaughter in the hopes they forget about you when they’re done with the rest. Moreso delaying the inevitable and crossed their fingers rather than defending.

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Ok

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Anonymous #7 34w

Read. The. Thread. I have a fairly straightforward opinion and it’s all right there

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Anonymous OP 34w

I. Read. The. Thread. Where tf did Neo Nazi come from

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If you’ve ever been on Twitter, you cannot defend the Jewish people without being shut down with “That’s Israeli propaganda.” This was an entire discussion on whose fault antisemitism is and when told to blame Jew haters rather than Jews, they resorted to “That’s Israeli propaganda.” Side by side it’s the same interaction I’ve had with every Neo Nazi on twitter

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Anonymous OP 34w

That doesn’t make every instance of someone saying something is Israeli propaganda a neo-Nazi talking point, sometimes it is and sometimes it isn’t…

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I’m not talking about every instance. I’m talking about this instance. Of 2 Jews talking to each other and the other resorting to blaming Jews for antisemitism and yelling “Israeli propaganda” as an answer for everything. Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn’t. This time, it mirrored verbatim what I experience from neo Nazis on twitter

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Again, even if every Jew outwardly supported every action Israel did, that would in no way justify Jew hatred outside of Israel. I do not and we should not excuse people’s hatred of Jews because Israel did something. People are fully capable of separating a country in the Middle East from Australian Jews, and it’s disgusting to even concede an inch to anyone who goes “well you know, Israel IS doing all that stuff, it makes sense why they wanna kill us.”

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Sure, but antisemitism and that conflation existed before that and will exist after

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There is a difference between saying they’re connected and saying that the antisemitism is because of Israel. Antisemitism started rising before 2023, Israel’s recent actions and statements have been used in propaganda to hasten that but that would’ve played out quite differently if we weren’t already in a time of rising antisemitism

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But again, the dynamic was happening before Israel. If antisemitism, Christian nationalism, and ethnonationalism more broadly weren’t already ascendent in this country, they would’ve have had the audience to be able to propagate those talking points and grow in the way it has, and the anti-imperialism rhetoric that in this country has historically been the primary angle of criticism of Israel and war crimes committed by it would’ve remained where the overwhelming majority of that energy went

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Anonymous OP 34w

It doesn’t “make sense why they want to kill us” or justify any of it in any way but it does make sense how accusations of antisemitism have been defanged by the spokespeople for the State of Israel saying people are doing blood libel when they describe things that Israel had done and have been filmed And when people stop taking accusations of antisemitism and blood libel as seriously, because they’ve seen so many spurious ones, that makes it easier for actual antisemitism to spread

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