Anonymous #1 12w

It’s one thing to support Gaza, that’s fine. But having such events the week of October 7th is sick. That would be like having pro Israel events the week that the nakba day took place

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Anonymous #2 12w

Not the point. The timing is disrespectful

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Anonymous OP 12w

They still have all the right to protest, the world doesn’t revolve around Israel

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Anonymous OP 12w

And the only public protest of the week on the streets is the one on Oct 7. Surely a coincidence right

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Anonymous #2 12w

Okay? Who said they can’t? They were called disrespectful, not criminals

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Anonymous #3 12w

And UMD Student Council scheduling the BDS vote for Rosh Hashanah and then Yom Kippur

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Anonymous #3 12w

If they actually cared they would be pushing for the current peace deal which is supported by the majority of countries and the PA itself.

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Anonymous #3 12w

The narrative has never been more obvious. Plausible deniability can no longer be claimed. We should know now with certainty who our friends are and who are our enemies

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Anonymous #3 12w

They don’t want peace. They rally against every ceasefire deal that gets proposed yet simultaneously scream ceasefire now

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Anonymous #2 12w

Okay. With your logic, if I wanted to have pro al qaeda rallies on 9/11 that would be considered normal and acceptable behavior?

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Anonymous OP 12w

They don’t want peace or a ceasefire. They just want the destruction of Israel. The radicalization of some of these schmucks should be documented.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Hamsa accepted the current peace deal just like they accepted the last few. Bibi keeps changing them & backing out last minute so hopefully he doesn’t do that this time

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Anonymous OP 12w

That’s a lie

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Anonymous #4 12w

Hamas have not been accepting these deals. They also make ridiculous demands for these deals. Such as only releasing minimal amount of hostages while they get hundreds of terrorists in return. Bibi backs out when Hamas refuses to deal and breaks the deal.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Idk if we can claim that being pro Palestine & protesting the genocide that Israel is doing is the equivalent of being pro Al qaeda

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Anonymous #4 12w

I was making a comparison of being tone deaf. Also, there’s no genocide

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Anonymous OP 12w

That’s a lie the details have been documented in Israeli outlets as well as independent western sources. If you support Bibi or Israels genocide just say that. Also there’s plenty of innocent Palestinians being held by Israel that haven’t even been charged with a crime so it’s wild of you to call them terrorist unless you just assume all Palestinians are terrorist. This has been documented by multiple human rights organizations including Betselem the Israeli human rights organization.

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Anonymous #4 12w

So the story broke after my comment, that being said Hamas has not agreed to all the terms of the ceasefire. This is however the first time they have agreed to the term of releasing all of the hostages. On multiple other deals they have refused this and it has been a non starter for negotiations.

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Anonymous OP 12w

I can’t say I’m surprised that you’re engaging in genocide denial despite all the experts saying otherwise

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Anonymous #4 12w

Never said I supported bibi. I’m not saying all Palestinians are terrorists. I’m saying hundreds of them convicted of terrorism were released from ceasefire deals. Again, not a genocide. Never heard of a genocide that would end if the alleged genocide victims just released the hostages from the alleged conductors of genocide.

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Anonymous #4 12w

Not surprised you support Hamas despite them being the ones committing genocide

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Anonymous #3 12w

They have literally agreed to multiple deals set forth by the US & Israel and repeatedly Israel has at the last minute changed the deal. Again you can read about it

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Anonymous OP 12w

Please tell me what human rights organization are saying that hamas is committing genocide 😭 bc there are plenty of human right organizations that say that Israel is committing genocide

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Anonymous #4 12w

That is an absolute lie. Wild to have someone in here hardcore simping for Hamas. Hamas has reneged on multiple deals. In the last ceasefire they refused to uphold the agreement for phase 2. None of Hamas’ ceasefire deals until today included the immediate release of all the hostages.

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Anonymous #2 12w

Murdering 1200 people is a genocide. Their charter is genocidal. They promise to do it again and again. They specifically target Israeli civilians. They’re the ones committing genocide

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Anonymous OP 12w

But killing 50,000+ people isn’t genocide?

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Anonymous OP 12w

I am also still wondering what human rights organizations have concluded that it’s a genocide

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Anonymous #2 12w

Where do you get those numbers from? Hamas? The ones who don’t distinguish between civilians and Hamas militants? The ones to hold base in civilian areas with the intent of causing civilian casualties? Alright

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Anonymous OP 12w

I think it’s safe to assume that Israel has killed over 1500 Palestinians in the past couple years 💀 so why isn’t that a genocide?

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Anonymous #2 12w

I’m taking about since 2023-now. Also great to ignore everything I said

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Anonymous OP 12w

Because none of that is an excuse to kill innocent people bro

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Anonymous #2 12w

Never said innocent people. I’m saying Hamas is responsible

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Anonymous OP 12w

How is hamas responsible for Israel killing children

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Anonymous #2 12w

Hamas embeds themselves in civilian areas in order to maximize casualties. Hamas recruits children as soldiers. Hamas refuses to allow civilians to escape when Israel gives them the route.

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Anonymous OP 12w

None of this is an excuse to kill children oml 😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous #2 12w

Okay you aren’t hearing me at all. I’m not saying it’s okay to kill innocents. I’m saying it’s Hamas fault

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Anonymous OP 12w

Again, how is what Israel doing Hamas fault

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Anonymous #2 12w

Alr just ignore everything I said bc Hamas are innocent perfect angels who have zero involvement in Palestinian civilians dying. Be so fucking for real

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Anonymous OP 12w

Putting words into my mouth now 😭😭😭 why is it hamas fault that Israel is killing innocent people? I really don’t understand

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Anonymous #2 12w

Because they are perpetuating a war that they started. And civilians die in war. As simple as that

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Anonymous #2 12w

Okay get mad at the person for turning on the light and not the people pouring gasoline everywhere. Bc it’s only the one turning on the light that led to the fires fault

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Anonymous OP 12w

Yalls lack of empathy is truly disgusting

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Anonymous #2 12w

Never said I lacked empathy. I said Hamas are also responsible for civilians dying. I said it’s not 100% Israel’s fault.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Civilians died in war on October 7th. it was simply a tragedy of war. Why are you so mad about it?

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Anonymous #2 12w

Dick riding Hamas and saying I’m the one lacking empathy is hilarious

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Anonymous OP 12w

I said nothing pro Hamas

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Anonymous #2 12w

In a conversation on how to end/minimize death, when you don’t get the answer you like it suddenly becomes about empathy? Either you’re talking politics or you’re talking feelings and empathy, pick

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Anonymous #2 12w

You defending and ignoring all of their actions is you supporting them

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Anonymous OP 12w

Not defending them lmao Israel news to take responsibility

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Anonymous #2 12w

Hamas needs to take responsibility.

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Anonymous #2 12w

You are defending them when you deny their own involvement and responsibility for civilian casualties

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Anonymous #1 12w

If thousands of Palestinians dying is just a more than October 7th was just a tragedy of war

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Anonymous #2 12w

They weren’t at war before that tho… so that’s not accurate

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Anonymous #2 12w

Was Pearl Harbor just a tragedy of war?

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yes

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Anonymous #1 12w

It’s just funny that when Israelis die you guys scream genocide, but when thousands of Palestinians die they are just “a tragedy of war“

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Anonymous #2 12w

Lol 🤡 The US wasn’t at war until it happened. But by your own logic now, all the civilians in Hiroshima Nagasaki were valid

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Anonymous #2 12w

Because a key element of the word “genocide” is literally INTENT

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Anonymous #2 12w

Israelis weren’t at war when they were attacked. Palestinians were at war when they were attacked. There’s your difference.

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Anonymous #2 12w

When Jews die you call it resistance. When Palestinians die under Hamas bases you call it genocide.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Never said that 😭😭😭😭

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Anonymous #2 12w

And I never said Palestinians dying is a tragedy of war. I’m saying Hamas is responsible for their deaths. I’m saying they’d be safer if Hamas was eliminated. What do you expect Israel to do when Hamas has their artillery and bases in homes, mosques, hospitals, schools? Aren’t Hamas responsible when they purposely put themselves there?

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Anonymous OP 12w

Disengage dude, discussion hasn’t gone anywhere in ages. We thank everyone involved for healthy discussion 🪦

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Anonymous #1 11w

Every day since Oct 7 2023, 25 children have been killed in Gaza.

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Anonymous #6 11w

the war didn’t even start on oct 7 israel’s came into gaza days later

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