Anonymous #1 25w

Exactly, and lots of Ashkenazim like myself get tan

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Anonymous #5 24w

You really think because you have darker skin you’re more protected from the sun? THE SUN?! The giant ball of gas that is constantly shooting ultraviolet light at our direction that has no preference because it’s the fucking sun? The same sun that will burn you if you’re on the top of a snow tipped mountain or in the middle of the desert?

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Anonymous #5 24w

Oh and why do you think people from around those parts dress that way because let me tell you it’s not for fashion reasons or because they felt like it thousands of years ago it’s because THERE IS A GIANT ORB OF FIRE BEAMING DOWN ON YOU FOR HALF THE DAY AND THEY DONT ALL WANT TO GET SUNBURN OR SKINCANCER!

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Anonymous #5 24w

GOD this is just like that rant I went on a few months ago about how people all over the world no matter their skin tone used sunscreen throughout history because newsflash the sun will affect you no matter where you live!

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Anonymous #3 24w

I agree with 95% of your comment, and these people are ignorant fools, but they are not kapo. If the Nazis shared the view that many of these people have that Ashkenazim are descended from Khazars, that would’ve resulted in a likely racial classification under their system with other Turkic peoples, who they were certain still racist against but less so than they were to Slavs, let alone Jews I think a lot of us have been using that term too readily, which has weakened its impact

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Anonymous #9 24w

True, they likely aren’t deliberate N*zi sympathizers, but they peddle the same false talking points as antisemites that both use to try to delegitimize Jewish people’s indigeneity to and sovereignty in Israel. They slap Judaism/fellow Jews right in the face in the process. Obviously this isn’t to say Jews who criticize the Israeli government are kapos, you can criticize the Israeli government while thinking Israel as a nation should exist

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Anonymous #3 24w

Thinking Israel as a nation-state shouldn’t exist doesn’t make one an antisemite either, otherwise there would be entire denominations of Judaism that far predated the state of Israel that would be inherently antisemitic for seeing it as sacrilege. There are many Jews who believe a large scale return to the holy land and formation of a new nation state is into to be done after the return of the Messiah, and that to do so otherwise or by violence is apostasy.

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Anonymous #3 24w

And to speak about the non-Jews who peddle the nonsense talking point about sunburns, to attribute the dynamic to antisemitism is to fundamentally misunderstand the dynamic. Just as Europeans ostracized Ashkenazim for being too Middle Eastern, these are people doing the same for being too European (the people like this I’ve heard seem to think all/most Israelis are Ashkenazim)

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Anonymous #9 24w

Perhaps the non-Jews aren’t necessarily hateful or discriminatory but it makes them ignorant at the expense of Jews

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Anonymous #9 24w

It’s one thing if you’re a Jew who perhaps believes in a binational union or doesn’t necessarily think nations should exist at all. But the only major group/denomination of Jews that specifically don’t believe Israel should exist is Neturei Karta. Not only is their ideology self-sabotaging from the standpoint of Judaism, but they do believe Israel should exist, just not before the coming elections of the Messiah, so they’re essentially just delayed Zionists lol

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Anonymous #3 23w

It is not “delayed Zionism” it is a fundamentally different ideology, and it is very much not just Neturei Karta, prior to the Holocaust that view was far more common amongst more strictly religious Jews than the Zionist one. And it is anti-Zionist, actively, it considers Zionism a violation of the three oaths and apostasy to Judaism And the “Israel” these people would support the existence of is just a fundamentally different entity than what there is now that bares little relation to it

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Anonymous #9 23w

Wanting to eventually establish Israel makes them Zionist at least partially. And Israel (whether an ancient monarchy or a modern republic) is still the nation state of the Hebraic people. Also, anti-Zionist Jews are self-defeating because they are advocating against the indigenous sovereignty of the Jewish people, which is something God commanded the Israelites to fight for many times against foreign invaders according to the Tanakh.

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Anonymous #3 23w

God commanded us to spread around the world And no, Zionism is very much not the same thing as the religious belief involving a return to the ancestral homeland that is the root of our religion. Zionism is an explicitly nationalist belief, that sees Jews as a nation, it is inherently secular nationalist movement, the religious belief is neither of those things, nation-states are a modern invention and very distinct from the older view based on religious practice

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Anonymous #9 23w

Zionism isn’t necessarily religious, correct, because it based on the philosophical ideas of sovereignty and being indigenous relating to the Hebrew/Jewish people. But the Tanakh still commanded the Israelites to rebel for their independence and to fight back invaders, it did not command the Israelites to create a global empire

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