Jewish on Sidechat | i am a proud jew but i can’t bring myself to be a zionist. the man who founded the idea of zionism, theodore herzl, was an athiest who did not believe in God, yet used the excuse of finding a place for God’s chosen people to fuel his colonialism in the

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i am a proud jew but i can’t bring myself to be a zionist. the man who founded the idea of zionism, theodore herzl, was an athiest who did not believe in God, yet used the excuse of finding a place for God’s chosen people to fuel his colonialism in the

Anonymous 51w

to be honest, it’s largely debated whether herzl was an atheist or not. and while political zionism was started by him, the idea of zionism was not.

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Anonymous 51w

I think you’re conflating different types of Zionism. You’re right Theodore Herzl was completely secular but his vision of a Jewish state was also completely secular. There was also religious Zionism like Rav Kook who believes in returning to the land for religious reasons. Hertz will never used religion as a justification for a Jewish state. All Jews have a history in Israel and whether you believe that it’s religious or archaeological it exist. Early Zionist writers may have referred to it as

Anonymous 50w

you’re correct

Anonymous 51w

oh, i’m not defending him at all. i’m just engaging in discussion.

Anonymous

#2 51w

you’re right lol thats what i meant to say

Anonymous

#3 51w

Colonization, but that was the language of the time and it has a different connotation at the time, Zionism is the largest and most successful decolonization movement of all time. They took this massive diaspora group and returned them home.

Anonymous

#3 50w

A return if a diaspora group to a place their ancestors were from and decolonization are totally different things

Anonymous

#5 48w

What is it, if it's not decolonization?