Obviously not, but I do consider talking points pushed by Neo Nazis to be Nazism.

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Anonymous OP 21w

When a specific word is used against a group in a derogatory manner it tends to be a slur idk tho

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Anonymous #1 21w

Yeah, obviously

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Anonymous #1 21w

The only people thinking it’s derogatory are antisemitic conspiracy theorists. That’s it

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Anonymous #2 21w

We got cross posted so they’ve been in here hating Jews all day

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Intifada means “revolution”. It is occasionally used to describe wiping out Jews, but thats typically ironic or sarcastic. Its modern use is done by Muslim Arabs, who have faced great tragedy and oppression for hundreds of years, so of course in some contexts it is used to express anger. Totally okay to say tho!

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Anonymous #7 21w

I mean, violent revolution is violent revolution. Idk what you expect me to say?

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Anonymous #1 21w

So would you argue foreigner is a slur then? What about gringo? Goy is the same thing, sometimes it’s used in a derogatory manner sometimes it isn’t

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Anonymous OP 21w

Intifada refers to both peaceful revolutions and violent ones, some people calling for one want a violent one others want a peaceful one..

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Anonymous OP 21w

Invented definitions to get mad at is a very goy thing to do I thought? Intifada does not mean violent, it means revolution. Same way goy doesn’t mean “not as human as us” it just means another person.

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Intifada is just a literal translation of the word “revolution”, no matter how you try to spin it. Did you support the American intifada of 1776? It def has some interesting historical context, but everything has interesting history! Historically, some texts suggest that goys are not children of Adam! Not sure what that implies though but since intifada=violence against Jews can we assume goy=subhuman?

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This comment is categorically false and can be debunked with a simple google search asking if there exists Jewish texts where goy are compared to animals.

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Anonymous #7 21w

Yeah, that’s a neo-Nazi talking point and you’re taking it out of the hallachic context

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Anonymous #7 21w

I just know this douche is about to whip out some out of context or mistranslated obscure “Talmud” quote.

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Anonymous #2 21w

“Oh no, he’s gonna use historical sentiments of Jews as an argument even though that’s what I’ve been doing this entire time”

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Anonymous #7 21w

Bro is going to point out a part of gemara that says “goyim are exempt from this just as animals are exempt from this” and use it as proof

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Anonymous #7 21w

Homie you don’t want to play the historic sentiment of any group of people to apply to modern applications. Trust me it gets a lot less fun. Also the Talmud is a collection of arguments and rants and one out of context quote does not speak for the sentiment of the entire culture.

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Anonymous #2 21w

You’re right, which is why you agree with me that the intifada is fine right? Or do historical opinions matter? You can’t have it both ways lol

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Let’s follow this logic exactly. Jews have a closed religion. They have scholars that argue that goys are less pure than Jews. Israel currently has two separate judicial and infrastructure systems depending on your religion. They have a word that they call non Jews, but were supposed to believe this word is an endearing term. Is finding this problematic antisemitic?

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We should have a court in America just for Jews too while we’re at it. Also talk more about the West Bank

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It’s not just “any religion that wants one has one” Officially recognized religions get them, and they mostly have jurisdiction over stuff like marriage, divorce, and conversion (in Israel you can only get married in a religious court, they don’t have civil marriage). The courts are inherited from the legal systems of the British Mandate and the Ottoman Empire These are not full judicial systems, they have limited jurisdiction and generally have to be agreed to be used by both parties

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Anonymous #7 21w

“Goy” is not an “endearing term” nor is it a derogatory term, it’s just a term, whether it’s positive or negative or neutral depends on the speaker. It’s basically the equivalent of the term “foreigner” or the term “gringo.” Can they be used negatively? Sure, are they inherently? No

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Anonymous #7 21w

Intifada ≠ violence; the term in English is still used to just mean revolution in most cases, it being interpreted differently by some listeners doesn’t change that & goy just means non-jew, just like gentile does (the only difference is “goy” has a Hebrew root and “gentile” has a Latin root) The Tanakh literally used the term goyim for Jews it originally just meant “nation” & then evolved to mean “foreigner” over time & then just “non-jew” once Jews were in diaspora

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