
Ok I agree with what you’re saying like the pedos saying that 11 yo are “young women” when they’re lit babies but adoration is also forced birth. Either way your cervix has to be dialated and you have to give birth. Pedos in the pro life community are disgusting and as a pro life person I cannot back them up or stand with them. They give us a bad rep and I am sorry that someone even spoke those words into the world.
No, you don’t get to do that or say that. When these men call these child girls, “womanly” or “woman-like”, “mature for your” they are trying to erase their childless to excuse themselves for their inappropriate behavior. They only do it to girls and not boys a child is a child not a young adult. A young lady is 16 and up till she’s 20 cause not a woman yet, lady is more youthful than woman. So skipping lady and going to woman is purposely to mature the child.
Being called a young man when you aren’t a man but a child is placating, you weren’t a man at the time. And also that’s kind how abuse starts the small seed, they get you thinking well they don’t see me as child so I’m obviously different, cause kids are easy to manipulate. Why is anyone calling a child an adult.
You might be because on no earth would I even want to seem like I’m defending pedophiles but here you are with not on but two comments that could be interpreted as supporting them. Any language that is used to remove the innocence of children to make them seem more grown up is disgustingly wrong and should not be normalized
Yes the word choice does matter, because being called a woman before I ever was does leave an impression upon that child. Being told since 11 that I was growing woman when I wasn’t made me tolerate inappropriate comments at that age when i shouldn’t have, because children are impressionable.
If you saw my first message, ppl don’t call them that because they actually are, it’s because what they are doing is that of a grown up nature. I was called a young man all the time growing up and I never cared. I enjoyed it when my grandma saw me as a grown up cause that meant I was helping her and felt special. If we just have different experiences then we will never agree
That’s what you are discounting you are saying ppl don’t call them that because that’s what they are but I’m saying because ppl call them that some children start to believe it, which leads to the ppl with mal intentions taking advantage of them. I’m glad it never happened to you but it’s not a universal experience. The 11 yr girl is somehow always a woman in the news but 11 yr old boy is always a child. We don’t live in a world where everyone gets the same benefit of the doubt.
Don’t try to retcon your position. You said anyone who calls a young girl a young woman is a pedo. Obviously a pedo calling a young girl a woman is creepy. But that’s mostly because everything a pedo says is creepy. But it is laughably ridiculous to act like someone using the term “young woman” makes them a pedo, which is the claim you were making.
Ain’t reconning anything that’s your guys’ job to say one and then back up and say something else once you start losing which you’re doing right here. If you scroll up you can very clearly see that I said pedos calling children women in order to legitimize being sick fucks is disgusting but not once did I say mamaw is a pedo for saying that. If you want to make shit up you’re going to have to try harder than that
Idk what you mean by “we” as you literally haven’t been involved in this conversation at all. I encourage you to go back and actually read it and see that you are wrong. Even if it was a joke (which it simply was not), I personally don’t think accusing someone of pedophilia is a funny joke. Maybe I’m just old fashioned.
Ok so by me not being able to give a kidney bc I only have one that works that makes me a pro murder? I’m pro life, for everyone and if that’s ur logic I’m not even gonna argue because you won’t listen to anything I have to say. And my body is mine but when there’s a unique set of dna in the womb that’s not my body, bc that’s not my dna. If a pregnant woman gets killed it’s a double homicide, but if a woman has an abortion she praised for murdering a child?
Imma stop you right there to explain why it’s double homicide and not murder. Murder involves purposely intent of killing born individuals a zygote, embryo, fetus is not considered born because it wouldn’t be viable. Double homicide ehem homi means human, cide means death, death of a human. Humans can only give birth to humans just in case you think otherwise. Chris Watts if charged properly would be a double murder his born kids and a double homicide wife and unborn child.
Ok I am glad we agree that there were two humans killed the mother and the baby and then another, his other child. If he gets charged properly then he should spend life in prison. No chance of parole. People like that should never step foot on this earth again. When he dies he will be judged and he will likely burn in hell forever unless he gets right with god and gives his life to him.
So actually you can’t force somebody to make a medical decision that will kill them. And also you have to find a match for these people. Even if I were to give my single kidney it would likely not be a match for them and they would be in an even worse position then before. But by all means keep talking nonsense because nothing that you said actually makes sense to what I’ve been saying. I will not continue to argue with you because it’s simply not worth my time especially if you’re just gonna
it’s your lack of understanding that’s the problem; if they charged properly it wouldn’t be a triple homicide, it would be double homicide and double murder but because they forego the existence of the unborn and make the existence of the woman more important because it is why triple murder has a harsher penalty than double murder and double homicide. Because the born are more important than the unborn.
You literally said if a pregnant woman gets killed it’s a double homicide but a woman gets an abortion she’s celebrated for murdering her child. I corrected you and informed you about the definition of a double homicide and murder, cause you use words you don’t know. Stop using words you don’t know because abortion is not murder because for it to be murder it has to born and be alive outside the womb.
Omg sorry I thought you were the other person😭 but thank you for correcting me again. I know what they are but I’m just saying it’s two people being killed and not just one. That was the point I’m making. Still murder either way. And murder is the intentional taking of someone’s life. Abortion is intentional not accidental like a miscarriage
Buts it’s not murder that’s what you aren’t understanding, for murder to be conceptualized it must be born alive. You can’t murder something that’s not born and living, you don’t call a stillborn a murder it’s born but not living, it is a homicide, it’s the death of a human but it’s not a murder. There are specific qualifications for something to be a murder in 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree. Abortion literally doesn’t qualify as a murder.
If a child is born dead then obviously it’s not murder, it’s just an accidental death, a miscarriage, or stillborn. Abortion is murder because it’s intentional. You wouldn’t kill a dog w puppies and say oh well they weren’t puppies bc they weren’t out of the womb. They were still killed along w the mom. Homicide is pretty much just saying someone was murdered. Maybe abortion doesn’t qualify as murder to you, but it does to me because I believe every child has the right to life no matter how they
Wow you really want to double down on the word murder - when someone is charged with involuntary or voluntary manslaughter there is still a homicide hello manslaughter but it’s not a murder. You are fighting so hard for a a word you refuse to acknowledge the definition for because you know it will not justify your beliefs for abortion. Find another word but it’s not murder.
Also; youre a dunce if you think pregnancy doesnt change and cause bodily changes that can absolutely kill a person. Its an entire body thats changing and plenty of women develop chronic health problems from it. You missed that entire point (not shocking, folks like you tend to struggle with that)
Murder is inherently human in nature, you can’t murder a pet or anything that isn’t human. So murder can only be applicable between persons and persons are human beings, so find where I said they weren’t. I even said human beings can only give birth to humans. Homicide and murder can only be applied to humans doesn’t change anything I said.
Im asking why youre against forceful organ donation if youre “pro life”. Why do you get to deny someone else life just because you dont WANT to? Why would it matter if your health would be affected? Its never mattered for pregnant women, im just lost why you care so much (id assume its because it involves you and not your idea of women that “deserve it”)
What would your reaction be if universal meals were granted to any child at schools, healthcare no longer left the average American at the mercy of giant corporations, social programs were enacted to those marginalized by society, and common sense gun laws were passed to improve background checks, make sure domestic offenders were unable to obtain firearms, felons couldn’t commit firearms, and automatic weapons are not allowed in civilian hands. All this but it meant more taxes for you.
Problem is even WITH all that, its still inhumane to force women to give birth against their will. And OP clearly agrees that loss of bodily autonomy is bad, but only when it applies to them LOL. Its only about controlling WOMENS bodies. They dont give a shit about women nor children once theyre born
I personally agree with everything you said there, yes taxes would go up but if it means children can eat at school (hopefully it’s better than what I had in school), healthcare was better and hopefully cheaper, AND gun laws were improved then I would pay it. I think it’s way too easy for people to get a gun and there definitely needs to be a stricter setting on getting guns. Gun violence has gone up way too much and it needs to be addressed, so yes definitely agree with background checks 100%
Thank you, I really want this country to get better and I want my future kids to be safe and not have to worry abt school shooting and I want them to have actual food served at school bc the crap they gave me was cruising on barely edible.. it was horrible cause why was I served spongy eggs
No homicide isn’t always murder, there are exceptions to it. There’s excused and not excused. If someone is killed in self defense it’s considered a homicide but dismissed because of the self defense laws. Like in Alabama we have the stand your ground law. But in the case I was talking about it would be considered murder
No it wouldn’t be murder, I’m going to end it here because you believe in good for other things like children being taken care of and gun laws. An abortion in Wyoming isn’t going to affect you, an abortion in Illinois isn’t going to affect you, hell an abortion in Tuscaloosa will not affect you in Montgomery. But your willful ignorance about women and our bodies will affect women across the country. You get pregnant or someone pregnant you deal with it, but you don’t tell someone else how to.
I’m not telling someone what to do I just fight for what I believe is right. And yes I think we should end it here because I feel like we’ve gone in circles and haven’t gotten anywhere. My initial post was agree with OP and I had just said my opinion and my stance. Had I not said I was pro life I wouldn’t have gotten this hate from some people. Have a great day