
Would you like a creator who didn’t give you free will. Free will is why sin entered the world. We continuously misuse our free will and it affects all of us bc our global community is a family. I know you know this is true, bc murdered affects the person killed and their family, but on a wider scope it affects all of us. All of us experience the empathy to hurt. Our wrongs hurt our loved ones. No it’s not a punishment, it’s just what happens when we try to be our own Gods.
I don’t think it’s necessarily a comfort I lean into. I think it’s something that after studying I believe. I’m definitely not trying to invalidate the impact of how unjust it is. But I do not have blind faith, and conclusions I’ve come to I study and take seriously. I believe God is Love and God is Truth, not a truth but The Truth. Also thank you for being so respectful!
To the extent that you believe Jesus is the son of god and a reflection of gods divinity, and furthermore that there is only one god, omnipotent and omniscient, who created all the universe and, by nature of their omniscient powers knew all that would follow (human life, 12 y/os getting cancer, rapists getting elected president) you also believe that god made the choice to give those kids cancer, no? God if god is all powerful, he could have made it so kids don’t get cancer.
If god was all powerful and let those kids get cancer anyways for some greater purpose, I think that’s immoral, if god didn’t make kids immune to cancer because god doesn’t have that much power, god isn’t all powerful, which the bible is pretty clear on. Seems like it doesn’t really add up. God either thinks it’s moral/divinely righteous for kids to get cancer, or god is not all powerful (in which case we prolly shouldn’t call it god.)
“I think that’s immoral” That’s exactly it. Majority of us have a sense of morality, but there are some people who just want evil pure evil in the world. The world we live in is a result of the hearts of people who think it’s okay to murder and lie and rape. Yes this world is so hard to understand. But as Christians we also believe this world isn’t for us we’re just visiting. While child cancer is so difficult to deal with in every capacity and feels unjust there is also a hope and faith that
I dont blame you, I hate that I believe the later; it makes me depressed. But you said it, injustices are justified even more gloriously THEN WE CAN IMAGINE. The idea is comforting, but comfort isn’t truth. Truth is knowing that unless we figure out how to treat cancer, it will kill people. Truth is knowing that unless we know why people rape, and how to stop them, they will continue. If we think that the victims, of either cosmic luck (cancer) or malicious humans (rape) get a happy ending…
I think we likely accept those vile aspects of life more easily. We become less inclined to help others because we know they will have eternal happiness, so long as they are good Christian’s. You say we are visitors in this world, but I think we ARE this world. I would rather accept the fact that people are horrible to one another and suffer for no reason and I can do something about that than accept that this suffering is the nature of the world by gods command, and that’s just how it is.
I think your perspective is more Christian than you think as well. Christianity isn’t about being good, it’s about love. Jesus most important commandments were to love above all else in fact he says all other laws rely on loving God and other people. I think your heart for people is so beautiful and wanting to pursue justice for people is so admirable. I hope to only share what I know about faith and a deeply complex topic. But you are 100% right we do need to be doing what we can to help!
I’m not surprised you said this. I was born Christian and was baptized. On the whole I think what Jesus tells us about how to treat each other is correct. Love your neighbor, the sick, the poor, the stranger, love your enemy and wish the best upon them. If everybody did this world would be better. But I think needing to justify and enforce that view on the basis of divinity sells the morality of humanity short and removes accountability.
I am also curious while I maybe still have your attention as to how you deal with scientific principles and theories in regard to creation. Do you think God chose for the atoms to line up in such a way that life would occur and humans would be born of it? I think that arguing on Noah’s ark or genesis is reductive because it’s a story with a message first and a historical account second, but if god is all knowing how can we have free will? Are our futures not decided?