
Whatever mental gymnastics you gotta do to convince yourself that an unborn baby isn’t a baby, you’re free to do it. Call it whatever you want, it is a human child and its ability to live or be killed before birth is not anyone’s decision in all cases that the act that led to the conception of that baby was a choice freely made. In all other cases it should still be strongly considered to carry the baby to term and put it up for adoption
But there’s no such thing as an unborn baby. There is things such as a zygote, embryo, fetus, ect. So please stop trying to spread misinformation. If you were holding a zygote and a baby and were forced to drop one smth tells me you would drop the plate of cells over the living and breathing bby. Go back to basic biology and stop arguing with a scientist
Are you trolling or do you actually not know that the “life” in the phrase “pro life” mostly refers to that of the baby? Tho actually come to think of it, even if you don’t count the baby, the pro-life position is still pro-life in the sense of net-people-alive, since like 98% of abortions are more dangerous (to the mom in terms of mortality rate) than births. Still not making a ruling here on choice vs life, but there’s no honest way to argue it’s NOT a fight over choice vs life. It just is.
The issue with calling it that is that an embryo, a zygote isn’t alive. It’s not a baby. A baby is alive. A clump of cells isn’t really alive. So you policing what people do with their bodies and taking away the choice of women is pretty 🍇 y and messed up. Unwanted pregnancies not only ruin women’s lives but can also end them. There’s nothing pro life abt that. Hope you do some more research before you start another argument
Also please please stop with the spread of misinformation. 98% tf did you pull this from? Most abortions you take pills and you can do it from ur home. Most pregnancies you go to the hospital. The USA has the highest mortality rate for pregnancies in developed countries so please, don’t spread misinformation that can literally kill pregnant women
You’re a clump of cells, Einstein. Incidentally the real Einstein was also a clump of cells. Not that that has any relevance to anything, it’s just a bizarre non sequitur to conclude from that that something is NOT alive. It’s like saying the earth is flat bc Magellan sailed around it. Speaking of research, you wouldn’t have had to look go nearly as far to not say so many foolish things. What am I policing? I flat out said I wasn’t even taking a stance on life vs choice, I’m just refereeing bc
I noticed you were arguing in bad faith by directly misstating the other side’s position. As for the 98% (or so figure) I got that from the findings of a Supreme Court case. Roe v Wade or Casey I’m pretty sure. Iirc it was something like you’d have to be obese and diabetic for birth to be more dangerous. Idk how they squared that with most abortions being pills, but it’s not crazy that the pills may be dangerous. Not that dangerous procedures should be illegal, but I didn’t make this up.
I can’t argue in “good faith” when ur spreading misinformation and trying to act like anti choice isn’t regulating women’s bodies. Sorry? So you don’t know where the 98% came from? Well one google search will show u that the US has the highest pregnancy mortality rate in developed countries https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2024/jun/insights-us-maternal-mortality-crisis-international-comparison + another google search on “at home abortion pills” will direct u to
A few websites where you can order these super “dangerous” pills and have the abortion at home. Bc an abortion is safer than having ur pelvic bones move to allow the passage of the fetus out of the birth canal. Yeah ur bones literally expand hence why there’s contractions. I just finished my parturition unit trust ik what im speaking about
Well no, you can consent to intimacy but not pregnancy. You can also stop with the victim blaming. BC is 90-99% effective, not 100% so u can b doing everything right and still end up with an unwanted pregnancy. So that’s why it’s important to have choice, each person has individual circumstances they’re going thru so STOP TRYING TO REGULATE WOMENS BODIES ❤️
U cant ignore the fact that u might get pregnant and then be surprised with the consequence of pregnancy ALSO thats not victim blaming so stop acting like everyones victim blaming when its just truth u dont wanna hear also ur talking about a special scenario that happens to 1% of people that get pregnant but does everything right
Not really. It’s can happen at any time. Especially if you restrict access to birth control you can’t be surprised that people will seek abortions more. You can absolutely be surprised and upset because you don’t want a pregnancy and now you do. Seriously with ur logic BJs are canabalisim then 😂