Anonymous #1 4w

i swear😭 my partner is from a 3rd world country & is always saying "u guys r supposed to be better than us whats going on" & im like "I KNOW"

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Anonymous #4 4w

Go to bed grandpa

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Anonymous #4 4w

1. no one was talking abt allowing illegal immigration 2. no one was talking abt the US charging for visas. we r talking abt them suspending immigrant visa processing/making it impossible to legally immigrate as shown in the screenshot thanks for contributing

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Anonymous #4 4w

i- 🥲 no what that was doing was pointing out the hypocrisy of the govt rn/ppl who say they want immigrants to come here legally but then make it IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO

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Anonymous OP 4w

yes but is it now a selective amount of countries ? It’s not every country I feel like there’s a reason many countries should be in that list.

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Anonymous #4 4w

75 countries?🥲 theres only 195 in the whole world

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Anonymous OP 4w

okay understandable, what are the countries ? Iran ? Afghanistan ? North Korea ? I mean there definitely should be some countries on that list but I agree not that many.

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Anonymous #4 4w

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/14/full-list-75-countries-visa-processing-suspended

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Anonymous #4 4w

thats the full list

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Anonymous #4 4w

OOF I’m against illegal immigration, but this is just disrespectful

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Anonymous #4 4w

This! And no one is talking about how billions tax dollars a year go to people who are here illegally, towards their health care and education, which yes, I do believe everyone (this includes illegal immigrants deserve an education and healthcare) but why are we acting like this isn’t a huge problem? We have so much going on just on US land alone, this is not the time to be letting everyone in

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Anonymous #6 4w

Undocumented migrants are not eligible to recieve US government assistance including Medicare and Medicaid, due to being undocumented, however they do pay their taxes…try again…

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Anonymous #8 4w

Are you r*tarded? BILLIONS of dollars are paid out yearly for Medicaid. Consider SNAP, “emergency” housing, etc too- for illegals alone. Emergency housing is placing these individuals in motels, where taxpayers pay 800/week per person. Obviously-there is a housing crisis, for OUR ppl too.Simple logic deducts it’s not a HUMANITY problem it’s a RESOURCE problem. I make $23 an hour and work full time and I can’t even afford health insurance. It’s making the choice, doom us all- or limit resources.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Let’s stop attacking people’s character for WAKING UP and seeing it isn’t SUSTAINABLE to take care of new populations pouring in, when the people who are CITIZENS cannot survive- much less take care of the next person. Grow the f*ck up and realize it isn’t realistic. I was a social worker and I can promise you the media deflects how bad this issue is. Left AND right come together in this corruption. Stop feeding into it. Look around, they’re leading us into a dystopian future.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Again, undocumented migrants are ineligible for government assistance which includes numerous examples you’ve described: https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47318 I would urge you to do more research rather than parrot misinformation that falsely bastardizes a population that pays their taxes without receiving the benefits of it personally.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Also, increase in health insurance cost premiums are partly due to the elimination of government programs such as Medicaid and Medicare for US CITIZENS; with the absence of these programs acting as competition, insurance companies jack up prices since the market is a lot more skewed in their favor: https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/whats-behind-rising-health-insurance-costs How about you look up at billionaires and make them pay their fair share so that we can afford cheaper healthcare.

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Anonymous #8 4w

Hey babe? Do something for me. Google how much money is paid out in public assistance to undocumented immigrants. I’ll save you the time, 182 billion. 150 billion when you subtract the contribution of illegals. Again, I worked with these populations as a career. I’m very well aware, by real experience. Not false sources. Funny how you can’t include a source that proves this “ineligibility”.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Not sure why you would rather be “right” than understand the policies and procedures of the country you live in. There is a separation of federal and state jurisdiction. State funding and local programs are the source, the same way marijuana is legal in NY and illegal federally. How about you research that babe?

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Anonymous #9 4w

You did a great job at proving my point. LEGAL and CONTRIBUTING members of society are being held to a higher financial standard for our NEEDS because of the large disparity in accessible resources. Yall want to save immigrants at your own expense. They wouldn’t do the same for you.

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Anonymous #9 4w

I did, I listed in in the above comment, you can read it, also I am not taking “trust me bro” as a source from you, please provide your source to back up your argument so we can further discuss.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Ok than can you give me instances of state level programs given to undocumented immigrants. And even then, can you justify why they shouldn’t receive said benefits if they to pay they again, do pay taxes: https://taxpolicycenter.org/fiscal-facts/yes-undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes-and-receive-few-tax-benefits

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Anonymous #8 4w

https://www.kpbs.org/news/racial-justice-social-equity/2025/03/14/its-costing-california-more-than-expected-to-provide-immigrant-health-care-is-coverage-at-risk?utm_source

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Anonymous #9 4w

Again, safety net programs are often accessible to undocumented immigrants. If it were accessible, yes I would gladly pay my taxes if it ment families could eat or not be forced into bankruptcy due to medical costs, these people are humans at the end of the day. I don’t care if they would or would not do the same for me, helping others is not about prizes.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Again, I’m not arguing over the HUMANE thing to do. We’re talking about the RIGHT thing. Unfortunately, we do not have the resources. We cannot continue supporting the THOUSANDS of new populations pouring in daily. It’s killing our economy, and creating a wealth disparity that isn’t sustainable. I’m with you, f*ck the 1% elitist. But you’re arguing for them if you support what is currently happening.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Everyone says what you THINK is the right thing to say. “They’re a human” “it’s the MORAL thing to do”. It’s a classic ethics question. Look at the trolley analogy. Do you let nature take its course and kill the 3 people? Or do you think we have the right to take control and change course to kill the 1 person? At the end of the day, the question is CAN we help everyone? We can’t. This savior complex mentality is slowly killing us as people. I’m sorry, I’m not willing to die or live in survival

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Anonymous #9 4w

My family, my needs- those come first. I’m just brave enough to be honest and admit it’s not possible to save everyone. That’s devolved thinking. Grow up.

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Anonymous #9 4w

I’m not attacking immigrants as people. I would love a society where we all have our needs, and our happiness is prioritized. Unfortunately, we aren’t there. We won’t get there if we keep diving deeper and deeper into national and global debt giving handouts. Our legal system is corrupt, and yall keep letting their white sympathy propaganda make you volunteer your autonomy and true values.

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Anonymous #9 4w

But immigrants aren’t the only population that is using Medi-Cal more than the state expected. California’s Medi-Cal population in general ballooned during the COVID-19 pandemic when the federal government temporarily suspended income eligibility checks to keep people insured during the national emergency. Before the pandemic about 13 million people used Medi-Cal. That number peaked at 15.6 million in 2023 The Legislative Analyst’s Office has also noted a 40% growth over the last four years in

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Anonymous #8 4w

the number of seniors enrolled in Medi-Cal. While seniors make up only about 10% of the program’s enrollees, they account for a large part of the program’s spending because benefits such as long-term care are among the most expensive.

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Anonymous #8 4w

Again, California is one of 6 states that provide state funding for non-emergency healthcare (and other public assistance programs). Not to mention non governmental agencies and community supports. It mentions this in the article, you must have missed it. All I am saying is it sounds nice to help everyone. But it isn’t realistic. They are drying up our resources. I’ve seen pregnant women homeless on the streets, and other horrors. It all bleeds together.

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Anonymous #9 4w

First of all I am not white, I am black, second of all my father fought for the citizenship of his parents and himself by joining the army. My sympathy is not in “white apologetics” it’s in experience with those close to me, third of all, I agree the system is corrupt, so we should look to the billionaires not paying their share and politicians not reforming the system rather than down at migrants looking for a better life.

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Anonymous #9 4w

It’s destructive financially, and difficult to bounce back from. Our veterans, our disabled, OURS IN NEED- are not being helped because the MASS URGENCY of illegal immigrants. It’s a controversial subject and for some reason it takes precedent to people like you. We have no business helping anyone when we can’t help our own people.

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Anonymous #9 4w

No, I did see that portion, however I, I would also like to restablish these people still pay taxes, I don’t see anything wrong with them accessing the few assistance programs they have access to. Additionally I agree that pregnant women on the streets are a horrible thing but we should also not set this up as a trolly problem, there are other methods to get the required funding for both issues.

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Anonymous #8 4w

My deepest respect for your father 🫡. They being said, I agree with 9.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Again, from experience the VA has been broken for a long time, immigrants have nothing to do with that. And again, I urge you to not look down at migrants who are looking for a better life but UP at politicians being payed by lobbyist and billionaires shilling out EVERYONE to become richer and hoard their wealth.

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Anonymous #8 4w

It is a trolley issue though… you aren’t internalizing what you’re reading. We are in TRILLIONS of dollars of debt. It’s about making informed decisions. Our programs cannot sustain the large percentage of people utilizing them. Hence why I say it you cannot provide a service if it cannot be paid for. The 1% has their hand in these policies bc they profit off the corruption. That’s why I’m arguing if you believe that, supporting immigrants is hypocritical to your values.

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Anonymous #9 4w

How is it hypocritical, how is making the 1% pay their share so we can better support these system’s hypocritical to what I said.

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Anonymous #9 4w

We are actively neglecting the people who have needs not met by providing for people we aren’t technically responsible for… hence why I say we can’t just act in alignment with what SOUNDS right. You act in order of necessity and priority. I don’t understand why you don’t see how funding is limited- if they receive a certain amount that takes away from what is accessible to LEGAL struggling CITIZENS.

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Anonymous #9 4w

Medicaid alone was $614 billion annually https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/R/PDF/R42640/R42640.13.pdf Medi-cal was $8.5 billion annually https://calmatters.org/health/2025/03/medi-cal-budget-shortfall/ Agian, we are not spending as much as you think on undocumented migrants. And again, we would have more cash flow if we challenged politicians to make billionaires pay their share, we all want welfare programs for those in need but kicking people off should not be the only solution

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Anonymous #8 4w

I’m done arguing. You’re clearly missing the IQ points to understand the larger picture here. Regardless of the specific amount, illegals do not deserve ANYTHING in my mind when CITIZENS are being neglected. You’re caught in the corruption to the point you can’t see politicians ARE THE BILLIONAIRES. They are paid off to make them more money! The illegals debate is only one of many ways they keep us distracted from our NEEDS AND VALUES, and standing up for them. Be the “hero” in ur mind queen.idc

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Anonymous #9 4w

First it was they’re ineligible, I prove that wrong. It goes to the “humanity” argument- you have no real retort so it circles back to Medicaid complexities? It’s making our country BROKE and our people BROKEN. end of story. bye 👋🏻

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Anonymous #9 4w

You are so close to getting it, but okay, btw I never had to resort to insulting someone’s intelligence or empathy, as that is how a conversation is supposed to flow. I have presented numerous sources you have presented one. Have a good day

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Anonymous #9 4w

Which i proved they are mostly ineligible for FEDERAL assistances. My retort was that we needed to stop the problem at the roots rather than cutting off branches to relieve symptoms. And I did not state complexity I stated how the cost difference for welfare used by CITIZENS far out weighed the cost for the few assistance programs on a state level for undocumented immigrants. Please represent the conversation correctly.

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Anonymous #10 3w

"just follow the law & theres no issues" the ppl from those 75 countries who were trying to immigrate legally but literally cant anymore: 🧍‍♀️🧍‍♂️🧍

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