
I have read about these numbers before and looked into it and found they were calculated in a very flawed way. (I mean how are we even supposed to know what percent are false, just impossible to know in the first place) But that’s besides the point, how, specifically, is this something the police are doing wrong. Consent is difficult to prove/disprove. do you suggest convicting with no evidence?
The police force are a corrupt system in the US and while there’s so exact stats on this as far as I know, I personally know women who have had issues with reporting r*pe to cops. As for your first point, how many men do you know with false allegations versus women who didn’t even report the r*pe they experienced? Because as someone who literally has a false allegation (ex said I did after I told his friends about him abusing me), I know 10+ women who never reported their r*pe
Point: False cases are a tiny percent, and real cases are rarely reported. Also, It’s that many police are corrupt, not necessarily that they are getting bribes, but that they are either also abusers or that they do not care. For example: one study found that 40% of cops are domestic ab*sers
I’m not sure about the percentages, but I will say people lie about all kinds of things and this is no exception. (I only mention this because I have seen this thing were the idea that this is the one thing a woman wouldn’t dare lie about.) And corruption implies some kind of incentive. You will need to use a different word here. I think claiming that the police by large, literally support rapists is, frankly, insane. I’m not sure if that’s what you were getting at.
As for, “not caring”, could you imagine the possibility that the detective did everything they could, but simply couldn’t make a case? then, an emotional victim without justice, lashes out with blame, without really understanding the details? I am only pushing back on this because of the tendency to make these big exaggerated claims without any rational thought. I makes me uncomfortable because there’s an interpretation of the solution being to circumvent standards of justice.
Omg statistically, women don’t even make claims, and usually only do when they know that have a decent case like if they were drugged or harmed very severely/violently. Stop trying to find people on technicalities and just admit to yourself that r*pe is a huge issue that almost never has consequences😭😭
Also that study is from over three decades ago, and done by a feminist organization. “violence” here was broadly defined and could include verbal or emotional acts, not just physical abuse. Spouses reported lower rates: around 10% experienced physical abuse from their officer partners.
I, as well as others on here, are saying that the entire system is bad and they often don’t care, and also that many of them (not most or all) are abusers, so at the very least, 4/10 see no problem with abuse on SOME level. So yeah that’s a pretty awful system. I’m not going to keep fighting a huge loser like you because only someone who can’t get any because of a bad personality believes lies about women like this
So you ARE going to "keep fighting a huge loser who can't get any" It's very important that we as a society push back on people like you that are so emotional they lash out when they're wrong. It’s because you’re dishonest. And you're just strawmanning now, good grief. I only mentioned it was by an activist organization to highlight the intent of the study's design. Which was to conflate "violence" with "verbal abuse", and get a big number.
there is some overlap though someone who used to go to my high school and say shit like “men are oppressed and can’t cry and shit” raped his gf and got away with it. and there are many such cases u think u know them but they live among us. no one is ‘born evil’ as that would be biologically essentialist to say; and would also absolve them of accountability; it’s the way men are socialized and engineered that leads swaths of them to believe that they can use rape as ‘discipline’/power
You should see my other conversation with them. They were doing the “ACAB” thing and cited some study that I showed was being misinterpreted and then they just started hurling the standard insults. Believing most police secretly support rape is delusional and just a very hyperbolic childish thing to say
I really wonder if you guys lack comprehension skills or just intentionally misinterpret everything. Obviously I would act in that situation. I’m referring to the paradox of women wanting perpetual help from men while simultaneously villainizing their existence. It doesn’t make any sense
Yeah😊There’s no point to men. They only know how to do two things: 1) hurt women. 2) stand by and dumbly watch other men hurt women. Why would I waste my time being a live-in therapist, personal chef, or sex slave to men when instead I can just be happy and unbothered? There’s no point to men and my sexual assault helped me realize that😁
I think you’re both wrong I’m sorry I think there are many great men in the world and we shouldn’t “hate all men” But I also recognise that sexual assault isn’t something to be dismissed and it’s sad that women need to carry pepper spray and hold their keys in between their knuckles. Not all men, but always a man.
risking your safety for someone else’s benefit goes way beyond basic. Either you can explain how this situation doesn’t meet the definition of entitlement or just keep using snarky quips that don’t address the point. And I’m curious, what exactly do you believe women owe men if you believe men owe complete strangers protection
You’re conflating whether someone is obligated to intervene and whether it’s reasonable to morally judge inaction in the face of harm. Acknowledging that intervention can involve risk does not make the expectation ‘entitlement.’ Many moral norms involve risk, calling 911, creating a distraction, speaking up, or seeking help, none of which require physical confrontation. People are not being condemned for failing to be heroes; they’re being criticized for total indifference.
tho there is no such thing as a ‘real man’ or a ‘fake one’. i get what ur trying to say but there’s no monolithic man. every man who is a rapist, a misogynist is still a man; at large, us men can’t deflect from a pervasive problem embedded in our gender socialization by saying they don’t represent men, which just prevents us from address the problem and absolves them of accountability.