Anonymous #3 7w

How so

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Anonymous #4 7w

Clock it

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Anonymous #8 7w

judaism does not teach that but ok 😭😭

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Anonymous #9 7w

Read the Talmud yes it does

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Anonymous #8 7w

Do you even know what the Talmud actually is😭

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Anonymous #10 7w

Yes, it is the central text of Judaism

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Anonymous OP 7w

By accepting everything your admitting you believe in nothing, this is especially true with religion as the reason for there being so many is due to strong theological disagreements

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Anonymous #8 7w

That’s the Torah… the Talmud are just a collection of rabbinic discussions

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Anonymous #10 7w

Ladies ladies, both of you are wrong. It’s the Quran

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Anonymous #10 7w

No it’s not. The Talmud is second only to the Bible and holds all Jewish law. The Torah is in reference to the first five books of the Bible. The Torah also INCLUDES the Talmud because the Talmud is also a religious teaching of the Jews. Torah is a broad term that refers to the written words by god(first five books of the Bible) and oral Torah or oral law(Talmud).

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Anonymous #10 7w

Many Jews have you believe that they worship the words of the Bible but they don’t. It’s like people saying they follow the constitution but actually they follow the Supreme Court. If that makes sense

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Anonymous #3 7w

You’re*

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Anonymous #8 7w

Judaism teaches you to treat everyone as a part of your family, take in the stranger, as well as donate regularly and feed your neighbors.

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Anonymous #4 7w

Tell that to Israel

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Anonymous #10 7w

Don’t even bother arguing 😭 the Talmud is just a certain extreme version of interpretations, and 90% of Jewish people don’t follow it. But they don’t care about that

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Anonymous #8 7w

You realize that not all Jewish people are Israeli and not all people in Israel are Jewish right ?????

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Anonymous #4 7w

Yea the Jewish people who aren’t Israeli are controlling the media and eating children on islands and you choose to defend the religion cursed by god

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Anonymous #8 7w

You mean the ones who are Israeli??

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Anonymous #8 7w

Deadass no point in arguing with someone who’s not mentally capable to argue😭 I’m guessing you blame the Jews for everything

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Anonymous #4 7w

Not in nearly the same amount

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Anonymous #3 7w

There’s a difference between accepting everything and respecting everything though. Just because I respect someone and their right to opinions doesn’t mean I agree with those opinions.

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Anonymous #1 7w

And that shouldn’t be controversial

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Anonymous #8 7w

oh my god are you fucking slow 😭😭 like actually get offline and go interact with ppl please you fucking weirdo antisemitic bitch

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Anonymous #11 7w

That’s just a biased take and if you have any sense then you’ll realize that. You have to look at population density and grouping, cults form where a religion is most prominent as people branch away to practice their own interpretation of it (which is almost always extremist). Take a look at FLDS.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Yes true, wrong wording.

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Anonymous #8 7w

No mention of the third triplet, Christianity? Promotes slavery, sexism, genocide, etc…

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Anonymous #11 7w

this is raging Islamophobia or vagueposting abt Christians and there’s no in between

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Anonymous #3 7w

no, it’s agnosticism

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Anonymous #11 7w

oh it could be about Israel too, forgot that one

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Anonymous #17 7w

It does say in the Quran that you can do things to non-Muslims that are considered atrocities and get away with it..

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Anonymous #19 7w

What?

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Anonymous #19 7w

For the sake of your argument let’s say she was. It was an immaculate conception so what’s ur point

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Anonymous #18 7w

religious texts arent meant to be taken wholly to heart, interpretation & context is key with these things. idk about that specific verse, but most Muslims I know aren’t killing non-Muslims, so clearly it’s not a mandate.

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Anonymous #17 7w

According to the religion the prophet Mohammed is the most virtuous and holy man to walk the earth and while it’s true that most Muslims are not committing genocide in the us the Quran calls Muslims to be be like Mohammed. Mohammed was a warlord who married a six year old( don’t worry he waited a whopping 3 years before consummating the marriage) please do your own research as well, look into the grooming gangs in the UK.

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Anonymous #12 7w

I think they’re point is it’s still child abuse and child marriage

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Anonymous #12 7w

you can interpret which parts of his life are necessary to replicate. and why should others be punished for others who use their religion as an excuse to be deplorable? y’all realize this is just straight discrimination…?

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Anonymous #3 7w

I’m assuming OP is talking about Islam, but in the Bible, girls were betrothed at ages 12-15, and married a year later. Mary is believed to be around that age when she gave birth to Jesus.

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Anonymous #17 7w

because they are applying Islam correctly. There’s a study of it in the inquiry report, you can read it there. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6810978a41bbc42489eafa81/t/6a314bb1151e511944bd4421/1781615537601/The+Rape+Gang+Inquiry+Report.pdf

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Anonymous #17 7w

The Quran claims that it is the infallible word of god so making your own interpretation of the Hadiths and picking and choosing which to follow would be to exalt your judgement to be on par with god. There are people who make their own judgements anyway but the religion itself posits that the hadiths shall be followed to the letter or you go to hell. Once again I encourage you to do your own research. I am not saying that all Muslims are bad, I’m criticizing the religion itself

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Anonymous #18 7w

“…our post-war leaders embraced diversity and multiculturalism as the supposedly civilized alternative. This report establishes beyond any doubt that this ‘open society’ obsession has in fact enabled untold barbarism of its own.” this along with other anti-immigration & frankly racist sentiments makes this report clearly and obviously biased. glad you gave evidence, however this source isn’t reliable.

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Anonymous #18 7w

also, even if it was reliable, how does it prove they’re “applying Islam correctly”? there’s fundamentally no “correct” way to apply a religion.

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Anonymous #12 7w

that’s a more valid point, however it’s not reflected in the reality of many modern-day Muslims. you’re fine to criticize the religion, but there are lots of discriminatory sentiments going on here.

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Anonymous #17 7w

So you can’t prove it’s unreliable? It has plenty of citations, and I’m sorry but the truth is biased. Judging by the fact that you neither addressed the Islamic sections nor spoken of anything else tells me you only read the first few pages. I’ve read over 100. But im not surprised, people tend to be so wired that the mention of anything that doesn’t sound like what they’ve been told to like is enough to keep them away from doing any meaningful review, even if nothing is factually dishonest.

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Anonymous #18 7w

If you read the Islam section of the inquiry you could’ve answered your question

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Anonymous #18 7w

it was done with ulterior motives, as I’ve stated. that’s a clear conflict of interest, which inherently makes it unreliable. frankly it’s strange you’re defending this clearly-biased source rather than finding another.

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Anonymous #17 7w

What’s unreliable? The testimonies of victims? The statistical data? The review of Islamic tradition? Commentary is not always going to be impartial, but at least go through it more before criticizing something you haven’t read fully

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Anonymous #18 7w

that clearly isnt how most modern Muslims treat their religion. reading a religious text extensively doesn’t make you a pundit about the modern-day religious practitioners. & I’m not addressing the text because frankly that’s not the important piece here, it’s how modern-day Muslims clearly don’t interpret it the way you are lol

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Anonymous #18 7w

do you not understand the concept of conflicts of interest? you’re saying I’m uneducated, but you could see how it’s unreliable with one Google search. you’re standing on a high horse of education while actively not educating yourself. least obvious bad-faith discussion lol

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Anonymous #17 7w

Then you can’t criticize something you’ve spent no time looking at. Your points are all moot. This was about how if correctly applying a religious text leads to atrocity, the religion is also to blame. Just go read that part of the inquiry. I’ll even give you the starting page (116).

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Anonymous #12 7w

#12 I agree with your point on the origins of religion being flawed, but you’ll have to convince me of its relevance to the present day. I blocked #18 since you seem to actually care abt having a discussion, and I’m most likely to be convinced without them butting in.

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Anonymous #19 7w

I’m not talking about any specific religion, I’m talking about all religions that have those rules

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Anonymous #12 7w

No it wasn’t they claimed that so she wouldn’t be killed and then it snowballed into a global religion

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Anonymous #19 7w

You just said the Virgin Mary didn’t you? If your base claim is the religion is wrong or false please provide evidence for that claim

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Anonymous #17 7w

Dude idk, I think we should be able to look at a given text and come away with the idea that its contents are ridiculous and that not be bigoted. I’m not calling for us to treat Muslims differently but i don’t think “god told me so” is a good reason for a guy to marry and sleep with a 6yr old and he heralded as the most virtuous human ever

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Anonymous #17 7w

Well the problem with “religious freedom as a whole (not specifically talking about Islam just the general concept) is the idea that someone can essentially say god says I can live in this way and if you obstruct or oppose that ur discriminating against me is not cohesive with an objective rule of law, the individuals within any nation should be subject to the rules and laws of that nation as rules only work if everyone plays along. Furthermore most religious people default to it as their 1/2

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Anonymous #12 7w

Objective moral standard and vote to have the laws and morals of their religion enforced by the nation via legislation(don’t get me wrong everyone should be free to vote however they like) now I’m not saying religious people shouldn’t be allowed to vote however if the rationale of why u should vote this law into power is “ my god told me to make u live this way” is not cohesive in a society that prides itself on the separation of church and state 2/2

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Anonymous #12 7w

Burden of proof is on you. You can’t make a negative claim. You’re the one that needs to prove it RIGHT, r*t*rd.

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Anonymous #19 7w

I didn’t make the claim that Christianity is necessarily true you are the only one that has made any claim here today

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Anonymous #12 7w

Nope. I refuted a claim. Not the same. Learn. From books

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Anonymous #19 7w

What claim would that be, in this thread no one else has made one that your comment would refute

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Anonymous #12 7w

you can’t break the law with religion as an excuse & get away with it. religion isnt a valid excuse to marry a minor, and it’s legal for ANYONE to do that in the legal states & illegal for everyone in the others. I also don’t see how discriminating against an established religion does anything when you can simply advocate for a change in the laws that enable the behavior, both from religious & non-religious people.

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Anonymous #12 7w

I agree that separation of church & state is important, but your point on voting only applies when those people don’t understand the difference between enabling themselves & disabling others. for example, some religious people vote against trans healthcare, but many non-religious people do as well with similar reasoning. that behavior isnt exclusive to religion.

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