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356 upvotes, 35 comments. Sidechat image post by Anonymous in Insane Comments. "if u disagree, lmk, im genuinely curious on your thought process"
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Anonymous 1w

They genuinely get angry when it gets funneled back into our own country’s infrastructure as opposed to war or israel

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Anonymous 1w

But when people just live off of them that’s when the problem starts cause you are overusing the system that was built to help you get off the system not stay in it your whole life.

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Anonymous 1w

The government was constructed to establish laws to govern the people and establish order in the United States. It was anti-taxation in its creation and the income tax wasn’t even established until 1913 then the Federal Reserve was created. So no. It is not literally the entire point of having a government. However, at the scale of growth in this country and now being a cog in the wheel of a global economy, yes it does take taxes to help keep things running.

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Anonymous 6d

But those programs never work because the people who work for them have no incentive to make them efficient

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Anonymous 1w

Another 400 billion to Yisrael

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Anonymous 1w

https://cis.org/Report/Somali-Immigrants-Minnesota

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Anonymous 1w

Not really. That is a small part of it but the biggest thing is regulating commerce, creating laws so people don’t go around murdering each other for fun and ensuring peoples rights

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Anonymous 1w

This is so stupid because no body disagrees with this. It’s when it goes to helping people that shouldn’t even be here in the first place. Or it goes to programs that help capable of having job people but just live off tax dollars.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

I do think some government programs are intended to be temporary and some it’s fine to be on your whole life. For example, disability benefits are something people need their whole life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

It was anti-taxation at first and that’s why the articles of confederation failed because no state wanted to pay taxes.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

No it was not anti taxation. You’re missing the whole second part of ‘without representation’ the colonists were pissed that they had no say in the decisions being made

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

the government was constructed to establish laws to govern small and largely disconnected communities of migrant colonists that had little reason to support a bloody war against England. understand history if you’re going to cite it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Dig deeper than that. Why was the government created? Because the Articles of Confederation failed abysmally. So the Constitution was written to unite the states as a formal country. That very same document outlined things the treasury and who can levy taxes. In fact, it specifically states that Congress can levy taxes to provide for the general welfare.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Studies consistently show that the amount of people just mooching off the government is way lower than politicians are telling you. Most people who get benefits do work, and the benefits they get are still minuscule. No one is getting their entire life paid for by tax dollars without working a day in their lives. Except politicians themselves.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

Above 81% of Somalians in Minnesota are taking welfare from the government.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

What is your point? That Somali people don’t deserve food or healthcare? Are you implying that Somalians on these programs aren’t also working? What of all the Somali children these programs benefit? If you’re going to be racist, just say what you mean instead of hiding behind figures.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

You mean the ones in the learing centers?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

My mom’s cousin did that. Never had a job, gambled and lived off other people.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 1w

Are you talking about the Nick Shirley BS? Please get a fucking grip. You’re just a racist asshole.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

Are you saying there was no fraud?

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

It has nothing to do with the color of skin and everything to do with what kind of worldview or culture or upbringing says it is okay to do those things. Culture just so happens to develop among people in the same region, or among the lines between cultures.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

They’re mostly illegal so 3rd world countries are taking our money we work for.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 1w

It’s not racist we all saw the video where about every single door opened at fraud centers were Somalian

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1w

You forgot the part where some of that went to Al Shabaab.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 6d

The Nick Shirley videos were proven fake. The daycares he went to were found to have no fraud going on. They just didn’t open the door because a crazy man and his camera crew were banging on the door and screaming, demanding to see children. And illegal immigrants don’t qualify for government benefits so it’s literally impossible for them to get SNAP or Medicaid. You just think they do because politicians say so. Use your fucking brain. Again, you’re just racist.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 6d

Yes that’s racism. If you believe that an entire culture is lazy but others are hardworking, that’s just racism in other words. If you have no problem with all the white people on SNAP sitting in their trailers using their money to buy meth instead of food, then you should have no problem with hard-working people of color who have to work multiple jobs and still can’t afford rent and food.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 6d

They were not fake

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 6d

“Investigations revealed that the Minnesota GOP caucus collaborated with Shirley and specifically directed him to the day care sites used in his video” “Shirley arrived at some locations at times when the centers were closed—such as early morning before opening for second-shift workers, or when owners were in different areas of the building.”

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 6d

“The Minnesota Department of Children, Youth and Families investigated the day cares featured in Shirley's video and found children at all the operating sites, directly contradicting claims that they were fraudulent, empty facades”

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 6d

This is easily researchable online. You fell for a racist conspiracy theory with no evidence. All they told you was that immigrants were hurting the country and you believed them without a shred of evidence. Do better.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 6d

Several dozen people are in prison

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 6d

For the daycares ‘exposed’ by Nick Shirley? Name them. I provided you with evidence he’s a fraud and made it all up. Now you prove your point.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 6d

No you didn’t. You just said the video was fake

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 4d

“It’s not racist we all saw the video where about every single door opened at fraud centers were Somalian” “Are you saying there was no fraud?” “They’re mostly illegal so third world countries are taking our money we work for” Reminder that this whole argument started because y’all were making false claims about rampant, widespread immigrant fraud.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 4d

These claims stem from Nick Shirley’s video. Debunking his video means that there just isn’t widespread Somali fraud like you claim. Which makes sense considering the fact that UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS LITERALLY CANNOT RECEIVE SOCIAL BENEFITS LIKE SNAP AND MEDICAID YOU FUCKING DINGBAT!

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 4d

You are literally wrong. It’s time waltz he’ll give immigrants anything. Also ur telling me there is just Somalians In the “Learing center” with maybachs outback but nah they aren’t fraudsters. lol get it together.

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