
Why would I listen to the reasons behind why someone wants me dead? No, babe, it does not work like that. If the issue was something like parking or the color of the house? Sure! But when the perspective is “you should not exist/ your body belongs to someone else/ undocumented people are not people”… fuck of with that noise.
This would be true if modern conservatism hadn’t fallen into Naziism. The bedrock of modern conservatism is The Great Replacement Theory, which is fundamentally Nazi ideology. “Too many immigrants are coming and replacing the Pure Original culture!”. You can’t debate or compromise with fascists at risk of losing democracy as a whole. It needs to be struck into submission. In other cases though it’s good to listen to alternate perspectives for the sake of epistemic hygiene.
we can all listen to each others opinions but where the left draws the line is human rights. if people feel like their rights are being taken away they are going to get upset, maga (notice how i didn't say the right) is the same way except they seem to feel that everyone else having the same rights as them is an infringement on their rights
Nope. Cos the conservatives as a whole have lost my last sliver of respect for them when a group of them started calling me a monkey and a n*gger and saying America should bring back slavery in a comment section. Anyone who can align themselves with the same party as the KKK is immediately a terrible person in my eyes. I’m not listening to somebody explain why they want me dead.
Nah nah nah dog! F U and all trump republicans! I ain’t need to hear shit about how you think my family and I are less than because we were born on a different latitude. Not even just less than but deserving of being kidnapped and thrown into concentration camps. 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
No no, they presented a very valid point. Say some racist individual, regardless of political affiliation, takes the stance that they hate you and want to get rid of anyone who looks like you. This is a specific example, but can apply to any given identity, for the record. Why would it be necessary to listen to an explanation as to why they think you shouldn’t exist? Genuine question, I like actually want to have a conversation about this and understand your perspective
LGBTQ rights, abortion, and ICE’s treatment of immigrants would fall under the three perspectives they used as examples, I would argue. All three of those things are real, true things. All three of those things have become major political issues. I understand exposing yourself to different perspectives and ideas, but when those perspectives threaten basic rights and freedoms, that’s a line I don’t agree with crossing
that's the thing — a majority of moderate and conservative views do not actually fall under those examples. if you believe that, it's because you're in an echo chamber and need to expose yourself to the differing thoughts. i'm happy to recommend individuals who are part of the LGBTQ+ community who can offer great thoughts for you to listen to.
I think the main problem with that logic is that, while yes, there are many conservatives and moderates who don’t hold those same views (I’m not sure I’d agree with majority, but I won’t argue semantics), I think the issue that arises is that aligning yourself with or supporting people who do hold those views, even if you don’t necessarily agree with them, is still enabling them.
Like I said, I agree that different perspectives are important, and like Kore said, if the topic is something that doesn’t infringe upon basic human rights then I’m more than happy to hear a different perspective. If someone is saying things that are blatantly hateful and wrong, I am not going to entertain that person or their point of view
you should improve your critical thinking skills & logic and reasoning if you've drawn that conclusion from the comment. i condemn what was written, and that is simply people being poor humans. far left ideology is just as demented in its own way. hypocrisy is very telling.
My critical thinking is just fine, thanks. I appreciate you condemning that, because you’re right, it’s people being shitty. Correct me if I’m wrong, but with your comment you were suggesting that, because they’re attributing this way of thinking to conservatives in general, they’re “oversimplifying” or whatever. See my previous argument about how if you allow or associate with people who do terrible shit, you are just as accountable. Hence, you’d be suggesting they are the problem here
I don’t hate all men, but I am wary of all men, just like I’m wary of all conservatives. All of them don’t want me dead for being black, but if somebody does, it’s probably one of them. I don’t trust anyone who would willingly align themselves with a group that is infamous for being blatantly and unapologetically racist.
That’s argument actually makes my point very well. I, as a man, personally will call out terrible shit that other men do when I see it. I point it out, condemn it, and don’t associate myself with them. So no, you wouldn’t blame all men, because there are those who actively speak out against the bad shit. I have yet to run into a conservative who genuinely tries to speak out against the terrible things some conservatives say and stops associating themselves with that group
I think you’re a little confused how politics works here. disagreeing with conservative politics is not hating all conservatives. Saying “this policy is blatantly evil” is not calling all conservatives evil. There are policies that are more debatable. But if you agree with the evil policies just because you feel like they have to go along with the more economic policies - that’s not okay, and there’s not really much to talk about as to why.