Anonymous #1 17h

they’re always just loud and wrong

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Anonymous #4 11h

inviting other men to partake in that activity is wrong regardless of ny law. she didnt consent to other people being involved therefore was raped. why is the concept so difficult to grasp

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Anonymous #5 11h

what “nuance” is there? she went to that frat w someone she thought was a friend who then gave her drugs & forced her to keep taking them. then messaged a groupchat w 50 other men inviting them to “free pussy”. 7 total men then forced more drugs into her system and forced her into oral and vaginal sex

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Anonymous OP 11h

You say forced, but that’s not what she originally said. We don’t know what went down in that room and you can’t base guilt off of an accusation alone. The notion that we have to suddenly believe women no matter what is dumb.

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Anonymous #5 11h

isnt the phrase “guilty until proven innocent”? why wouldnt you believe a woman who says she was raped? imagine if that jane doe was your sister, your mom, a close friend? youd feel very differently about the situation and demand people believe them. so why not now? why not this instance? why does it have to be “theres more to the story theres no way they actually did those things”? whys it have to be “its only an accusation theres no proof”?

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Anonymous OP 11h

The fact that you don’t know that the phrase goes “ innocent until proven guilty” tells me all I need to know

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Anonymous #5 11h

why do you then think these men are innocent and deserve to have to be proven guilty? why would you prefer sitting here taking the side of 7 men who forced a woman into intercourse while inebriated instead of saying “actually this is all a possibility and those men are vile, disgusting, despicable human beings and should be rotting in jail”?

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Anonymous OP 11h

I have never said that the men are innocent. Really I think everyone involved in this is nasty. They deserve to be presumed innocent, and have their guilt proven in a court because that’s how the judicial system functions. If we base our society solely on the court of public opinion, how do you honestly think that would turn out? You honestly need to reconsider college if you do not understand the basic concepts of why our judicial system works the way it does.

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Anonymous OP 11h

You talk about me, not considering the possibility that they did it, which I have. But you cannot seem to face the possibility that the girl is retroactively, claiming rape for her own personal reasons. Not saying that’s what’s happening, but if we’re talking about possibilities.

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Anonymous OP 11h

Again you make it obvious you haven’t read any of her own statements. She consented every time, and in moments when she said no or even just nonverbally didn’t consent to something, the guys stopped. This is in her own testimony.

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Anonymous #5 11h

She did originally say that. When she made the rape report in 2024. Y’all insane and need to get off the internet. Not to mention they WERE punished. They were found guilty by the schools investigation. Their punishment was just fucking shit

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Anonymous #4 11h

Which story is true the one that she said two weeks after it happened or the one two years after it happened? I wonder what it could be.

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Anonymous #1 11h

Her saying she was raped and it legally qualifying as rape are two different things. Her son statement in 2024, made it sound consensual in every aspect. Also, Cornell did what they were supposed to. What do you expect them to do arrest them? They are a university not law-enforcement. And as far as I’ve seen, Cornell has not publicly stated what they were reprimanded for.

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Anonymous #5 11h

She reported it to the campus police department. Which is law enforcement agency and has arresting power. Loud and incorrect as ever

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Anonymous #1 11h

Yeah, and their investigation didn’t find that there was enough evidence. Loud and stupid as ever.

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Anonymous #1 11h

You do realize that it was up to the district attorney to bring those charges not the police correct? And the district attorney’s office did not find enough evidence to meet the legal requirements.

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Anonymous #5 11h

ok her first statement actually included her saying “i can say with 100% certainty i was raped”. secondly cornell shouldnt have let them off with fucking essays as if extra homework fixed the damage they did to her. cornell also shouldve let her receive her tuition back to transfer schools. cornell shouldve expelled all of those men and took those accusations to authorities just as she did. thirdly you dont go & make a fucking report if the actions done were with consent

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Anonymous OP 11h

That statement never reached the district attorney’s office. We can speculate as to why. And again the claim of rape does not mean it is legal legally rape. Cornell did not just give them essays. There were suspensions and expulsions, but again we do not know their exact reasoning behind their actions. Cornell acts as a business. She received some type of service from Cornell. It makes no sense for them to give her her money back because of a situation outside of their control.

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Anonymous OP 11h

And like I said before, you didn’t even understand that the phrase was innocent until proven guilty so I don’t trust your intelligence to make these arguments

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Anonymous #5 11h

what exactly did the da’s office do then besides sit on their asses? they couldve very well asked for a rape kit immediately when she made her report but they chose not to

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Anonymous OP 11h

Da has stated that he tried to speak with her after they made their conclusion that there was insufficient evidence, and she refused to speak with him. He cannot ethically go back and try to convince her to bring more charges forward if the case has been closed. He has also stated that the evidence brought forth in the civil suit is not evidence that was brought to them at the time so how is that on DA? Da didn’t sit on his ass her statement did not show that there was a lack of consent.

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Anonymous #5 10h

so being part of the da’s office is to investigate claims … they very clearly didnt investigate shit

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Anonymous #5 10h

what “personal reasons” are there to claim you were raped and drugged for 7 hours? 7 hours .. a full work day. why would you sit there and make those things up?

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Anonymous OP 10h

Maybe because she was being socially ostracized or maybe she wanted money through the civil lawsuit. Like I said before I’m not saying that’s the case, but until we have a trial, there is no way of knowing and I think people need to realize the guilt cannot just be assumed. The burden of proof is on the accuser.

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Anonymous #5 10h

Not to mention this new suit is a civil case, it is legitimately only for money. There’s nothing else that could come from them being found liable in a civil case here

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Anonymous #4 10h

I bet 95% of the people are outraged. Don’t understand that distinction.

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Anonymous OP 10h

Nothing was forced she said in the original campus report that the drugs and consumption was consensual, she simply did too much (not enough for incapacitation, which is NY law’s issue with consent) and then shit happened. Maybe don’t do a 3some that is trashy and immoral all around with every party.

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Anonymous #6 10h

so if you consent two a threesome with two guys, it’s okay for them to invite five more of their frat buddies to have their way with you without your prior knowledge or consent? don’t be purposefully obtuse. that’s not okay under any circumstance.

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Anonymous #4 9h

you’re right about the law but you’re wrong about the situation, what happened there was illegal she did not consent to the other 5. it’s not rocket science

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Anonymous #7 8h

That hasn’t been proven in a court of law. We cannot make that judgment.

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Anonymous #3 8h

When you read the report from 2024 she makes it clear her yes’s and no’s were listened to. Or have you not read it

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Anonymous #5 8h

no YOU need to look into the case more. yall love to act and sound smart and have no ounce of respect dignity or compassion. i’m speaking from personal experience many women tend to feel like it’s their fault when SA happens and down play it in the beginning. it’s not just me but practically every woman i know has had a similar experience where clarity can hit later on. this doesn’t make it unfair to the guys, they shouldn’t have been there and done that in the first place.

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Anonymous #5 8h

nope i’ve read it and i’ve also seen the encounter where her story was different than the other times and it makes perfect sense. why are you so sure that she wasn’t raped?

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Anonymous #7 8h

Let me understand you correctly you are saying you have seen where her story has changed and that makes sense to you? Also I’m not saying 100% she was not raped, but the current evidence that we have makes the accusation a little bit skepticism inducing. How can you be 100% sure that she was raped? Ultimately until this goes to court, and the evidence is examined thoroughly we won’t know.

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Anonymous #5 8h

we know she consented to TWO men, not seven, based on statements given. we know she took copious amounts of alcohol and ketamine, which immediately took away her ability to consent. we know from texts sent to chat she was not in that those guys invited more people for “free pussy”. we know when alcohol and ketamine mix, it sedates you and puts you out of your mind so you can’t make judgement calls. we know the other guys were aware enough to text their friends. what more do you need? 2+2 is 4

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Anonymous #3 8h

If you can’t see the nuance behind this situation, you’re not worth arguing with. This isn’t black-and-white and it’s overall a degenerate situation from every side.

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Anonymous #3 8h

its not even worth arguing at this point. they’re dead set she wasnt raped because there isnt “evidence” against it & are convinced that shes doing it for money. the rest of us can go on knowing that she was raped and they can argue w a wall

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Anonymous #5 8h

i’m not sure of your gender i’m going to assume though you aren’t a woman because many women have an opposing stance from you, i could be wrong. i’m not going to sit here and say you’re wrong because lawfully you’re right, but i really do want you to understand why women already have a notion that this was rape. 1/3 women in college get sexually assaulted, for every 1000 women in that category 310 get reported and 25 perpetrators get some sort of jail time. only 2.5% of sexual assault lead (1/2)

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Anonymous OP 8h

You’re dead set that they did rape her without a trial taking place.

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Anonymous #5 8h

to jail time. 1/3 woman get SAed globally. many woman don’t report because they’re afraid or it won’t go anywhere, or when it does get reported there’s people out there that when they get a hold of the information use it against them and run their name through the mud. again i said before lawfully you’re right, but please dude like if you’re not a woman and you haven’t gone through something like this you truly don’t know the extent that people can go.

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Anonymous #7 8h

Regardless of how people personally feel about the situation, the fact is that everyone is claiming openly and posting about the men who allegedly did this. A trial needs to take place and allegations towards men should be taken just a serious because regardless of whether they are guilty or not, the allegation alone is life ruining. It’s not right that these men are being publicly executed metaphorically when they have not been given their day in court. Bad precedent.

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Anonymous #5 8h

then show me the nuance because you’re failing to argue it. what exactly about her statement in 2024 was consensual? because in the CBS article it was stated she was in denial about what happened when she texted him later on and felt she had to be nice to her aggressor in order to find out what happened. this is called a fawn response- it’s common in victims of SA.

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Anonymous #3 8h

Convenient but okay.

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Anonymous #5 8h

you did not understand what i said. this isn’t about feeling i’m giving you statistics. i hope your world view changes because you seem like you’re unwilling to see what’s actually happening right now

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Anonymous OP 8h

men will do everything except hold each other accountable stg

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Anonymous #7 8h

Bro I understand I’m just not letting emotions cloud my judgement about why this needs to play out properly.

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Anonymous #3 8h

Women will do anything but self reflect

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Anonymous #5 8h

“wonen do anything but self reflect” as if simply by being there and existing in that atmosphere meant she was allowed to be raped and seen as nothing more than an object to those men. offered up as nothing more than “free pussy” for those men. meant that she was no longer seen as a human who would then suffer lasting harm and pain from their actions while their lives never changed.

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Anonymous #5 8h

you’re the one getting riled up buddy defending something you’ve had the privilege of never experiencing. go suck some more cock

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Anonymous #5 8h

EVEN REAL ALLEGATIONS DONT RUIN THEIR LIVES WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT

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Anonymous #7 8h

Wow, way to get all emotional 🤣

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Anonymous OP 8h

Woman moment just stfu atp

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Anonymous #5 8h

men will do everything but stand up for women & claim men are the protectors when men are what women need protecting from

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Anonymous #5 8h

well since i’m just a dumb woman please tell me what i need to reflect on, because every single point you’ve made so far is null. being technically not found guilty of rape doesn’t mean rape didn’t happen. it’s called the burden of evidence for a reason. this happens ALL THE TIME, which is why only 8% of rapists are convicted. but you know. we’re all just dumb women here, so please tell me what nuance i’m missing since you still haven’t told me?

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Anonymous OP 8h

Okay then don’t be with a man, you will be doing us a favor

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Anonymous #3 8h

I’m not gonna speak to an emotional woman about these issues. Y’all can’t handle it apparently

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Anonymous #5 8h

oop there it is. blatant misogyny. that didn’t take long. run back to the reddit cesspool you crawled out of.

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Anonymous #5 8h

you must be one of those people that think the “male loneliness epidemic” isnt a self inflicted fucking thing

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Anonymous OP 8h

I have a gf so I wouldn’t know, but with women like you I can understand

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Anonymous #3 8h

took longer than i thought ngl

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Anonymous #5 8h

just say you see women as less than lmao pack it up lil bro

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Anonymous #3 8h

If Reddit is what you think of you’re stupid. You deserve the misogyny fr

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Anonymous #5 8h

you must be more of an red pill podcast guy then. either way pack it up 😒

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Anonymous OP 8h

Eventually I realized y’all deserve it lol

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how you even have a girlfriend is appalling

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Anonymous OP 8h

No I don’t think I will, keep wishing though loser

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Anonymous OP 8h

Game is game

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Anonymous #5 8h

4chan moment

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Anonymous OP 8h

he 100% doesn’t tell her about the shit he says to women online. these kinds of guys are cowards. if she knew the type of shit he got up to she’d leave in a heartbeat.

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Anonymous #5 7h

😭😭😭

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Anonymous #5 7h

Na bro you evil 😭

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Anonymous #5 52m

Talking about other people not understanding that distinction when I guarantee you don’t know more about it than “one is for money and one is for prison” is hilarious. The lawsuit, which is against Cornell for their handling of it the first time, has reopened the criminal case, too. No guarantees it goes anywhere, but there is substantial evidence that it was mishandled the first time

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