you’re so close yet completely missing the point. “females” is making the adjective the noun. removing the person part is dehumanizing. i was gonna try to explain this w your paint analogy but that can only get the noun/adjective part and not the bigger issue that is dehumanizing.

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Anonymous #5 9w

Woman is a noun

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Anonymous #5 9w

“Female“ can be an adjective, but not in the sense either of us mean it, if that’s what you care about

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woman is a perfectly adequate and accurate way to describe people and a good way to avoid pissing us off while doing it. why is that so hard for you to understand

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Anonymous #1 9w

yes it is. and it’s the appropriate one to use here.

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Anonymous #1 9w

what #3 said. but if you REALLY need the grammar lesson too, here you go: “that is a female dog.” female is an adjective here. “that is a female.” female is an adjectival noun here and the context tells you that you’re talking about a dog. but if you hadn’t established that context, you’re essentially saying “that thing is a female”. now notice how a living animal became a thing? that’s kinda what calling women females is doing.

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You just compared a person to paint…that’s a new low I am a woman and yes I am a female but call me a fucking woman I am not a dog I do not need to be described as female I am a woman Stop dehumanizing women

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Anonymous #7 9w

It existed as a popular term way before social media

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Anonymous #1 9w

“popularized on social media” (within the context of use as a derogatory term, as is being discussed) you could try to pretend you’re not being ignorant

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Anonymous #7 9w

It’s not a derogatory term. I think that’s where the confusion here is like 90% of the time when guys said it’s not derogatory.

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Anonymous #1 9w

neanderthal is not a derogatory term. when i say “you’re a fucking neanderthal” then it’s derogatory bc that is how it was used. same thing for “females.” it’s used to DEGRADE WOMEN which makes it derogatory.

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Anonymous #1 9w

I’ve only ever known 1 man to not use it in a derogatory way And I’ve known many fuckin men

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I understand the point but two things: 1. Calling a woman a “female” addresses them by their sex only. The word “female” makes no mention if this “female” you might be referring to is a human. Technically, “female” could be referring to, for example, a female animal, or a female bug. Therefore, it is dehumanizing 2. The term “female” has been used derogatorily in the past. That word carries a negative connotation and we MUST take that into consideration

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Anonymous #1 9w

bro said “it existed as a popular term way before social media” like he thought we believed the word “female” was solely a tiktok trend

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Anonymous #11 9w

No it’s dehumanizing We are not animals we are people Boys girls men and women So unless we’re scientists referring to it in a scientific way or analyzing something or reporting statistics then no it’s not cool

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Anonymous OP 9w

Oh okay

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Anonymous #1 9w

pretty much anything can be derogatory in specific contexts. Calling a girl a bitch is technically derogatory yet here we are

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Anonymous #13 9w

woman

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Anonymous #6 9w

So there’s a “W” on your driver’s license is there?

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Anonymous #11 9w

Yeah, that’s how it is already. Most guys don’t even think about it and select few of their counterparts make a big fuss over it because it takes too much effort to read into what they’re actually saying.

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Anonymous #1 9w

Most guys do think about it actually 😀 and you continuing to defend the dehumanization of women is disgusting

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Anonymous #13 9w

you must be a male

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Anonymous #6 9w

See, there you go

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Anonymous #6 9w

It’s just a word it can’t hurt you

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Anonymous #6 9w

Correct. Male and man mean essentially the same thing when talking about humans, not dehumanizing at all

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Anonymous #13 9w

Exactly. Same with female. There is a big controversy over man meaning plural or mankind meaning all of humanity a few years ago. Sort of the same idea except this one is far more ridiculous.

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Anonymous #1 9w

But when the majority are telling you to stop and you refuse you are then the piece of shit What part of that are you not understanding? We want you to stop, shouldn’t even have to give you a reason but we’ve given you plenty so fucking stop

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Anonymous OP 9w

It won’t be too long before “woman” becomes derogatory and triggering 😂😂 let’s just make up the rules as we go along

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Anonymous #13 9w

For while we’re at it, we might as well make rules to slow whatever this is that they call “ progress”😆🤷‍♂️🙄

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Anonymous #1 9w

i bet it’s small

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Anonymous #13 9w

itty bitty

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Anonymous #6 9w

🤏

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Anonymous #6 9w

Like ur tolerance for the word “female” 😂 I’ve never seen ppl get so offended by a genuinely inoffensive word

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Anonymous #13 9w

Hold on, “people” might be the new offensive word now. I should have said women, my bad

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Anonymous #13 9w

you don’t get it bc you’re not a woman, you’re a freak

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Anonymous #6 9w

I think there was an option u might have missed there

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Anonymous #13 9w

Woman is a humanizing term females is not and the fact that yall refuse to understand that and every other reason we give as to why we don’t like it shows that you are simply incapable of being a decent human being It’s giving small dick energy It’s giving sad bitch syndrome It’s giving misogyny It truly is not that hard to just oh idk be a decent human being and stop calling people what they don’t want to be called

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Anonymous #6 9w

I prefer the word “man” because “freak” is a dehumanizing term that makes me cry online

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Anonymous #13 9w

good, freak

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Anonymous #13 9w

So? Why should we respect you? You’ve given us absolutely zero reason to do so

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Anonymous OP 9w

Something called sarcasm 😂 idk why y’all keep engaging w the ragebait

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Anonymous #13 9w

Because you keep interacting Fuck off and get your head on straight and we’ll stop having this interaction…kinda common sense 0/10 rage bait btw I’ve seen 5 year olds do better 😂

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Anonymous OP 9w

Womp womp keep crying about a word everyone uses and your made up problems

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Anonymous #13 9w

Babe you just sat here for an hour telling everyone all about how you’re a raging cunt that can’t respect women…we know you’re single it’s okay

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Anonymous OP 9w

Well no one said cunt, that’s actually a negative word unlike female 😂 but I would never call you that

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Anonymous #13 9w

nice one pal

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Anonymous OP 9w

I am a gal myself. I do not see the word itself as problematic. You speak in contexts. Online maybe the word is mostly is used with negative connotations, sure. But I think it is highly based on a given case. It is also subjective. Lastly—in popular culture the distinction is also important bc of trans stuff—usually “woman” is sometimes used by trans people, while “female” remains denotation of those who are female at birth. Overall this discussion thread is v interesting imo! I wish we could—

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Anonymous #14 9w

—be a bit more civil and friendly! As well as come up with thought out arguments and not reactive emotions or name calling (and I am not singling out anyone in specific—I think many were at fault of this)

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Anonymous #14 9w

Based

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Anonymous #6 9w

body shaming is certainly an argument 😭

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Anonymous #15 9w

imo it’s equal to referring to women as “females” it’s equally disrespectful.

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Anonymous #1 9w

Thank you! I really try to come to these discussions showing my point of view but not attacking anyone. I feel communication is very important, as well as looking at nuances. Because I feel this—among other questions—requires an approach that acknowledges that there might not be a definite answer.

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