Anonymous #1 21h

see how you're proving my point? if i'm a woman it's fuck u, but if i'm a man u just don't agree and are a lot more respectful. sounds like misogyny to me

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Anonymous #3 19h

u are clearly the ignorant one if u think growing up in a patriarchy with misogynistic culture, traditions, history, and more won't affect u

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Anonymous #2 19h

i agree. js seems like thinly veiled "not all men!" argument

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Anonymous OP 17h

No, I am disagreeing with you. It is not a “not all men” argument, it’s not saying most or even all men are misogynistic, it’s saying that acting like they are going to be terrible people because they are men does more harm than good, because they take that as “you are not expected to be better than this,” and they aren’t expected to improve. You can be wary of them AND hold higher expectations for them

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Anonymous #2 17h

hard disagree that it does more harm than good. encourages women to be safe and avoid relationship w men that exploit them and encourages men to prove that they are different

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Anonymous OP 17h

I put up with so much shit from men before i stopped saying all men suck. It may not be something I was aware of, but it did encourage me to expect less from them. I changed my mindset and now have a boyfriend who actually respects me and other women. I’m not all women of course, but my situation has led me to this belief

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Anonymous #2 17h

i think that's an entirely different issue if u think men are misogynistic but still pursue relationships w them. saying all men are misogynistic doesn't mean pick the lesser of the evils and lower ur standards

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Anonymous OP 17h

relationships w men are completely optional

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Anonymous OP 17h

and they are going to be misogynistic not bc they are men, but bc they were raised to be men

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Anonymous OP 17h

I think everyone can be misogynistic, and because I enjoy romantic relationships and am attracted to men, I pursue romantic relationships with men. I used to think that men couldnt be better than at least semi-misogynistic, and settled because I was immature. I stopped settling when I realized men could unlearn misogyny and started expecting them to, and now I’m very happy. You don’t have to do any of that or date men, I don’t care. I’m just trying to explain OOP’s point.

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Anonymous #2 17h

this quite literally is a not all men argument. how many men actually do this work? very few and even fewer will actually stand up for women in front of their friends or other men

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Anonymous OP 17h

So if we truly lived in a culture that is misogynistic then how come women get an education run for political offices, and have the right to vote. By the way you do not have to mention traditions when you said culture. Doesn’t affect me? Are you forced to sign into the draft?

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Anonymous #3 17h

do u think women being disproportionately raped and the ongoing femicide isn't misogyny? or domestic abuse? or being paid less? or being forced to carry pregnancies? or child marriages? or human trafficking? we are allowed to run for political office but still don't have equal representation. the draft doesn't include women bc it was created before women were allowed in the military

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Anonymous OP 17h

and my point is that it does affect u, hence why every man (and woman) is misogynistic unless they intentionally combat this

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Anonymous OP 1h

Yeah well you socialized me to disrespect you, with that asinine braindead opinion of yours. Unless this was a test and you’re actually a man - in which case, I gently encourage you good sir to reevaluate your conclusions.

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Anonymous #1 1h

opinions the same regardless of my gender. but only women deserve to be cursed out for having it?

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Anonymous OP 34m

As a man, I neither care what you think nor am I surprised by the lack of logical follow through in your childish hot take. Unless of course you’re a man like me. In which case, I very much care what you think good sir, and I implore you to reason. Men (and women) are socialized by both men and women. As such, it is clearly erroneous to believe that women are actively socializing their men towards misogyny. But if you’re a woman, just shut up dude, I don’t wanna hear it.

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Anonymous #1 29m

what do u think causes misogyny?

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Anonymous OP 5m

Not one particular thing tbh. Could be social indoctrination sometimes. In other cases, it could be repeated bad experiences with women. Could also be an innate narcissism. 🤷🏾‍♂️. All I know is, it’s not some blanket philosophy being piped down all men’s throats by the ether. That’s just dumb. Most “all men” statements are very dumb anyways.

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