Anonymous #2 7w

Like?

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Anonymous OP 7w

Christianity norms: forgiveness and reconciliation, agape love and compassion. Buddhism norms: avoid sexual misconduct, avoid false speech, loving kindness.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Those norms aren’t normal because of christianity. They existed long here before the religion made its way to us

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Anonymous OP 7w

Did I say they were? No, I’m listing what are the norms that are beneficial from these religions.

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Anonymous #2 7w

They’re not from the religion is the point lol

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Anonymous OP 7w

Cool, again it’s norms that these religions practice.

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Anonymous #2 7w

These are ideas that existed long before religion. Even animals have been able to show some of these traits so can we just take the religion part out of it? If chimps can show kindness without the Bible then we don’t need it.

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Anonymous #3 7w

Yes I’m aware of that, again my point is that these religions practice those norms. We are animals, we are apes. Some animals have exhibited these behaviors. Out of all the animals you pick are chimps, the most aggressive ape. Chimps are known to kill gorillas just for the fun of it, they wage wars against other chimps, and they kill for the sheer fun of it. If I was placed in a room with a chimp or a grizzly bear I’m picking the bear. That chimp will rip your dick, lips, eyes and ears off.

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Anonymous #2 7w

That’s just an example. Religion also promotes gender based enslavement and child rape. It was also one of the biggest arguments for keeping black people enslaved too because the Bible had slaves. We can have good values without needing to include texts that promote the worst crimes against humanity possible just because they have some good concepts in them.

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Anonymous #3 7w

The only major religion that promotes gender based enslavement and child rape is Islam. That’s not even remotely true, Christianity was founded in Africa before it made its way to European continent. Religions also brought about technology and infrastructure we have today, like Christianity created universities. It’s the people in the religion that make it look bad.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Christianity in practice has enforced gender based discrimination/enslavement. I’d argue most religions are bad, but christianity is the most sociopolitically powerful in the US and that’s destroying our country

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Anonymous OP 7w

That’s not even remotely true. There’s nowhere in the bible or in the teachings of Jesus that enforces discrimination/enslavement. The problem is that there are people claiming to be Christian yet do not even following the teachings of Jesus, they use it as a cover to be shitty people.

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Anonymous #2 7w

“in practice” Read my comment again and respond to what I actually said.

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Anonymous OP 7w

“In practice” it is not practiced by actual Christians. Read what is actually said

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Anonymous #2 7w

“what is actually said” Regardless of doctrine, christianity in practice has led to those outcomes. You cannot deny basic history.

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Anonymous #4 7w

You mean being intentionally dense?

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Anonymous OP 7w

Are you referring to the crusades? Which aspect of history are you referring to?

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Anonymous #2 7w

The fact that you can name something that I don’t even have to have in my head proves my point

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Anonymous OP 7w

It doesn’t prove anything, since the crusades were caused by Islamic invasion of Constantinople. I only asked that because many people think Christian’s started the crusades.

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Anonymous #2 7w

The crusades which involved christians raping women and slaughtering children, were caused by islamists?

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Anonymous OP 7w

The same thing Islamists did when they invaded parts of the European continent which resulted in the crusades? No one is justifying the actions during war, especially during the times when rules of war did not exist,

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Anonymous #2 7w

Yes or no, do the islamists cause christian’s to rape women during the crusades?

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Anonymous #2 7w

did the islamists*

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Anonymous OP 7w

I already answered that question yet you’re asking it again. Are you being stupid on purpose?

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Anonymous #2 7w

I didn’t ask if it was the same thing they did. Yes or no did the islamists cause the christian’s to rape innocent women? Didn’t see a yes or no. Try again

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Anonymous OP 7w

Keep asking that question since it was already answered in my comment. So yes, you are just stupid and quite frankly historically ignorant. Did the Christian’s cause Islamist to invade and rape innocent women?

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Anonymous #2 7w

Got it so no, they didn’t. Weird you’d attempt to try to paint it like they did.

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Anonymous OP 7w

I never said it was the same thing, I said the same thing happened. In which is Islamist started it. Every human civilization that conquered lands, empires, etc. there was somehow rape of the innocences and pillaging. Was it right? No, but concluding it to solely a religious matter shows your ignorance.

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Anonymous OP 7w

So lack reading comprehension skills too. Never painted that it was result of Islamic invasion, I said the crusades were the result of Islamist invading land.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Great that doesn’t contest my point. Christians raped people in respond to being invaded. Glad we could agree lol

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